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Ranin
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Posted - 01 Jun 2007 :  20:42:12  Show Profile  Visit Ranin's Homepage Send Ranin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Ok, heres what just popped in my mind:

In the Realms of Aber-Toril, is there coffee? If not, why not? If so, where do they grow?

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Jorkens
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Posted - 01 Jun 2007 :  21:09:24  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed answered this 6th march 2005. South of Durpar and Maztica are the major sources.
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Kuje
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Posted - 01 Jun 2007 :  22:17:18  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zakhara also has some since they have a coffee ceremony.

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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  00:40:25  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I recall answering this pretty extensively in Ed's scroll at the beginning of the year... so I'll re-post that answer here:-

The Bedine cultivate coffee crops, given that it is considered their favorite drink -- hot salted-coffee. They also make use of rubbed coffee-grounds for dye. Coffee is often served at the Fifth Nights function hosted by the Wizards Guild in Ravens Bluff. Coffee is grown in Semphar. Sweetened coffee is a popular beverage served in Duirtanal. Coffee is grown in Ulgarth. As well as in Durpar where it is that country's most profitable export. Shining South notes that coffee is popular in most southeastern lands of the Realms, and is becoming popular in other regions across the Realms as well.

Ed's also discussed coffee in the Realms in both his March 6, 2005 reply [as Jorkens noted above] and the August 4, 2005 reply.

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Wooly Rupert
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As I recall, Elaine's short story "The Bargain" originally had Hasheth poisoning Danilo and Arilyn's coffee. In The Best of Elaine, though, this was changed to goldleaf tea.

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Marquant Volker
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Posted - 02 Jun 2007 :  02:08:48  Show Profile Send Marquant Volker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

As I recall, Elaine's short story "The Bargain" originally had Hasheth poisoning Danilo and Arilyn's coffee. In The Best of Elaine, though, this was changed to goldleaf tea.



I guess those two went into the "healthy life" philosophy

Sorry i could not resist

Edited by - Marquant Volker on 02 Jun 2007 02:09:36
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Ranin
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 :  07:49:30  Show Profile  Visit Ranin's Homepage Send Ranin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow. Thanks for the info. Sorry by the way for making you guys re-quote stuff. I just don't have time to come here that often or check out the other cool stuff this site offers.

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Gelcur
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 :  19:50:22  Show Profile  Visit Gelcur's Homepage Send Gelcur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting, looking at the FRCS map on trade routes and resources it lists coffee on the legend but I can't seem to find the picture on the map. That maps always bugged me as a side note, isn't the Western Heartlands sort of the bread basket of FR?

In the same line of question. Does anyone know of references to tobacco in the realms? The Trade Routes and Resources map lists it as coming out of Amn but I can't imagine pipeweed isn't produced in other areas of the Realms.

A resource map is a good idea but I get the feeling the one in FRCS is missing a lot that people of info.

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DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Gelcur


Does anyone know of references to tobacco in the realms?


Though authorities in Zhentil Keep, Mulmaster, Thay, and Mintarn question such claims, Elminster states that tobacco is what's in his pipe.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 :  22:12:32  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't imagine that Lurien (sp?) could NOT have the crop growing, as much as halflings smoke.

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Gelcur
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Posted - 09 Jun 2007 :  23:18:38  Show Profile  Visit Gelcur's Homepage Send Gelcur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After pouring through tons of old source books seems tobacco in the realms is a catch all for smokable weeds. And depending on the region you are prone to finding different types of pipeweeds growing. Many rumored to have medicinal purposes curing coughs and other ailments. Though most of it seemed to be short leafed plants as cigars are made from Maztican which would have larger leaves so as to be able to roll the cigar in the plants leaf.

Also found some game info most of the time it sold in bags that hold 15-20 uses and the bags sell anywhere between 2cp-2sp, I assume the more expensive stuff is coming from Amn/Tethyr or of course Maztica. Cigars can go for up to a few gold or a couple of silver depending on quality again.

The party come to a town befallen by hysteria

Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good.
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