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Faraer
Great Reader

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Posted - 24 Nov 2011 :  00:11:14  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Archive.org preserves (you'll have to copy and paste these URLs):

http://web.archive.org/web/20070525101635/http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007464.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20070523082759/http://www.robinhobb.com/rant.html
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Yoss
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2011 :  02:17:11  Show Profile Send Yoss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool, thanks.
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore

Poland
1190 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2011 :  16:04:01  Show Profile  Visit Zireael's Homepage Send Zireael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Back to the fanfic - what do you, oh hallowed scribes, think of it?

SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!

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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Nov 2011 :  09:57:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I tend to avoid them. There are exceptions, though, but very few.

Every beginning has an end.
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Yoss
Learned Scribe

USA
259 Posts

Posted - 28 Nov 2011 :  07:08:30  Show Profile Send Yoss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From what I've seen mostly terribly written, if they don't feature original Mary sue characters then one of the "canon" characters gets turned into one. And if they don't have that, then they're either lame attempts at comedy that turn the characters into ridiculous paraodies and charicatures (sp?) or creepy outlets for teenage girls to play out sexual fantasies anonymously online. And realms-related, those people only seem tp know Drizzt. Best avoided at all costs. Not that I've ever spent a significant amount of time reading that garbage, but I have come across far too much fanfiction in general. I think sage or wooly mentioned in another scroll Myatery Science Theatering the stuff. I used to find that stuff funny, there was a livejourmal community that used to make me laugh the way people picked apart the ridiculous House fanfiction (back from the first couple seasons, I don't watch tv anymore or care about that show anymore, so I have no idea if it's still out there) that I read far more often than I'd like to admit.
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Dennis
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Posted - 28 Nov 2011 :  07:37:15  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The Candlekeep Compedium is mostly fanfic. And that's one of the few exceptions I was talking about in the above post. [Though I don't read them from cover to cover. Just the parts that interest me most.]

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Lady Shadowflame
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 01 Dec 2011 :  15:44:29  Show Profile Send Lady Shadowflame a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fanfiction is just a different way of interacting with the source material.

Plenty of it is lousy; 90% of everything sucks, after all. Think of all the unpublished novels, the movie scripts that never sold because they were dreadful.
Only some of those novels later got self-published, because the writer wanted to get them out there.

The difference is, fanfiction is a little more... egalitarian, shall we say? about its distribution. There are fanfics out there that are part of the 10% that would stun you with the sheer skill involved in their writing.

A published author's opinion on fanfiction, here, includes the comment 'But if anybody loves my work so much they want to play in that sandbox, so be it. I'm flattered that I've affected them on that level, and the best I can promise is an amused pretense at complete ignorance that any such thing even goes on around here.'

And here we have a very impressive list of things that are technically fanfiction, but should not be dismissed because of it. I urge you to read all the way through before going "But..." because chances are, the answer is in there.

This TIME article, 'How Harry Potter Became The Boy Who Lived Forever', goes into a lot of the issues involved.

Save a lizard... Ride a drow.

Edited by - Lady Shadowflame on 01 Dec 2011 15:54:08
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
15724 Posts

Posted - 01 Dec 2011 :  15:58:41  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On more then one occassion, I have been asked by published FR authors if some of the stuff I post here is 'canon'. I try to always make the canon bits known when I weave new (homebrew) lore, to avoid this confusion, but it still occurs on a regular basis (and I apologize for that - sometimes canon and non-canon bits are woven together a bit too tightly in my musings).

And in a least one case I can think of, several of my musing were later added to canon, and I find that very flattering, and have absolutely no problem with it (and made such a disclaimer on the WotC site, so as to avoid any problems for such gracious writers in the future).

Basically, I am agreeing with Sage here - Candlekeep and the scribes here - even when we post on other sites - try to contribute to the setting as whole, and even try to rectify some of the continuity gaffs, which I feel is a positive thing. 'Fan-fic' has a negative connotation - its the sort of rubbish that finds Hermione in bed with Snape - and folks here don't go that route. The Realms aren't here for our personal fantasies - and thats what fan-fic is - it exists because Ed greenwood was kind enough to share it with us, and we owe it more respect then fan-fic usually shows to a setting. Its that level of respect that IMHO sets us apart.

<soapbox mode over>

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 01 Dec 2011 15:59:25
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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 01 Dec 2011 :  16:51:14  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

The quote the author of the article in LS's link: "I think debates about fanfiction are boring. And pointless. And such a waste of perfectly good time when people could be telling stories."

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