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maelstrom58
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  03:32:13  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Specifically the region immediately south of the Star Mounts. I see the Stronghold of the Nine as well as a road leading apparently to nowhere west of it on the FRCS 3E sourcebook; is there any info on what this would lead to?

Any tidbits regarding the region, the Company of the Nine (I believe that's what they were called), Aumvor the Undying, the cities south of the Delimbiyr, and anything else you can think of, including personal campaign info--especially personal campaign info!--are welcome as well.

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The last members of the Nine are detailed in Laeral's entry in Seven Sisters since she was one of the members of the Nine. Otherwise, The North box set, Silver Marches, Waterdeep and the North, and Volo's Guide to the North all have info on the High Forest.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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And Lost Empires of Faerűn. As well as Silver Marches.

As for Aumvor... there's a few tidbits in Ed's "Pages from the Mages" article (Briel's "Book of Shadows" from DRAGON #97) and then he's given some treatment in the old Lords of Darkness accessory. Note also that the write-up for Briel's "Book of Shadows" was published again in the 2e FR sourcebook -- Pages from the Mages. And, of course, Champions of Ruin.

Most of the High Forest sources listed will feature some lore on the region south of the Delimbiyr as well.

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I said Silver Marches alrdy. :)

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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  07:56:37  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I said Silver Marches alrdy. :)



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More like I forgot to wear my glasses.

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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I said Silver Marches alrdy. :)



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I think the Calishite dancing girls were distracting him, of course, it could be because he IS getting old.

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I could comment on that, though my better half is currently hovering over my shoulder trying to read what I'm typing so I'll leave it at that!



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maelstrom58
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  22:37:02  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input, Kuje, Sage, Asgetrion. Any personal campaign ideas?
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I've never featured the High Forest, significantly, in any of my campaigns. Sorry.

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quote:
Originally posted by maelstrom58

Thanks for the input, Kuje, Sage, Asgetrion. Any personal campaign ideas?



I've hardly used it in its modern incarnation.... however, I've used it for a 2e game but that game was set 10,000 years in the past, so my info probably isn't that useful because the PC's have influenced my campaigns history.

Otherwise, I've only used it for a few stand alone scenes by putting in a ruined cottage, a scene that lead to further fey'ri scenes, and a tower that I'm still flushing out but its connected to some deities/guardians that guard the dreams that are in the Deep Ethereal behind the curtain.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Hooded One
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We Knights visited the Unicorn Run (which Ed has described in various of the products already cited in this thread) twice. A breathtakingly beautiful forested stream valley. Ed DOES have the Stronghold of the Nine mapped as a dungeon, and delivered those amps to TSR back in 1986 (so they own them; whether or not they've gotten lost since is anyone's guess).
maelstrom58, would you like to post a question to Ed in his thread, to get specific lore answers from him?
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Murray Leeder
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  04:44:31  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Much of my novel Son of Thunder takes place in this area; you may want to give it a look.
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maelstrom58
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Posted - 26 Apr 2007 :  02:26:23  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks all for your input; Mr. Leeder (or Murray, if you prefer), I'll definitely check out Son of Thunder.

Miss THO: this is very much one of the questions I'd like to ask Ed (must...resist...urge...to...address...by...surname...); I'm currently working my way through his previous replies to questions, and am slowly poring through the 2006 entries. When I'm sure that my questions haven't been answered already, I will post them to Ed posthaste. This also gives me an inescapable (and imperative) reason to make sure I read through everything he's said. It's a literal gold mine--and I mean that literally; what if Ed just gave all these ideas to WotC to sell in sourcebooks--of info!

That being said, Miss THO, I'm flattered that you'd respond to my post--thank you very much. Would you perhaps grace us with an adventuring tale on (or near) the Unicorn Run? Please?
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The Hooded One
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If you mean "adventuring" as in: drawing swords and fighting monsters, there's not much to tell.
On our visit, we found it a place of unearthly, tranquil beauty, with glowing, almost hovering unicorns trotting "on air" (hooves not quite touching the ground) amid the huge, moss-girt trees on both sides of the gently-flowing waters. When Florin mounted the bank to get closer, for a better look, dryads came out of all the trees around to challenge him, but then murmured a respectful greeting (seeming to "see" something none of us could, that marked him as Favored of Mielikki).
Torm, of course, scrambled up to get a better look at the dryads, and they promptly surrounded him, nude and lovely, and buried him in caresses that awed and then frightened him; he hurried back to join us with most of his garments torn off (to be greeted by much teasing by the rest of the Knights). Treants stalked us as we moved along the run, keeping "behind" the streamside trees; owlbears and stirges and forest predators shun the vicinity of the Run, and its sylan defenders gather against evil creatures, woodcutters, and creatures using fire; otherwise, it's more of a road into the wilder depths of the High Forest than it is an adventure site in itself. There ARE caves opening into it, bringing tiny springs to join the run, including the former Stronghold of the Nine - - and some of these are monster-haunted "dungeons."
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Torm, of course, scrambled up to get a better look at the dryads, and they promptly surrounded him, nude and lovely, and buried him in caresses that awed and then frightened him...

Hope this helps,


It certainly helped me, my lovely Lady.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Torm, of course, scrambled up to get a better look at the dryads, and they promptly surrounded him, nude and lovely, and buried him in caresses that awed and then frightened him...

Hope this helps,


It certainly helped me, my lovely Lady.


Me too! and I was coincidentally heading to the bedroom to join my wife. [yawn!] bedtime! [yawn!]
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maelstrom58
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Posted - 26 Apr 2007 :  18:30:14  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many thanks, Miss THO! I have just one more question for you, if you'd take a little more time out of your schedule:

A focus of my campaign was going to be the doings of Aumvor the Undying, as I find him a very interesting character and this campaign takes place in his stomping grounds (or at least the area he could stomp if he wanted to). When you passed through the Unicorn Run, did you ever encounter any evidence of Aumvor's activities there, or even encounter him yourself? I get the feeling that he's the sort of person that lies low right up until he snaps a trap shut on his unsuspecting quarry, but I'd like to know if you found him to be any different.

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by maelstrom58

Many thanks, Miss THO! I have just one more question for you, if you'd take a little more time out of your schedule:

A focus of my campaign was going to be the doings of Aumvor the Undying, as I find him a very interesting character and this campaign takes place in his stomping grounds (or at least the area he could stomp if he wanted to). When you passed through the Unicorn Run, did you ever encounter any evidence of Aumvor's activities there, or even encounter him yourself? I get the feeling that he's the sort of person that lies low right up until he snaps a trap shut on his unsuspecting quarry, but I'd like to know if you found him to be any different.



I'm pretty sure that the Aumvor of "Champions of Ruin" notoriety and the Aumvor of Ed's home campaign were more than a little bit different - including the location of their lair.

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maelstrom58
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  00:46:32  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Care to elaborate on that, George? That's something I've never heard before.
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I have used the High Forest a bit in some of my campaigns, but mostly the PCs just traveled through parts of it.
Depending on the parts traveled through is how the "mood" of the forest was. But regardless of where at, one thing I did keep constant is that it was an ancient forest. The area around the Unicorn Run definately had a "benevolent" feel to it, while the area near Karst was more "malevolent" to it.
Always signs of the fey, but few direct sightings unless the party was actually looking.

Over all a Deep Dark Magical Forest is how I tended to portray the High Forest.

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Murray Leeder
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  05:36:08  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maelstrom58

Thanks all for your input; Mr. Leeder (or Murray, if you prefer), I'll definitely check out Son of Thunder.


"Call me any name you like, I will never deny it." -- Bob Dylan

I'm trying to think of other books that visit the High Forest. Troy Denning's The Summoning certainly does, going to Rheitheillaethor and the Dire Wood. The Nether Scroll takes place nearby, in the Wethercote Wood and Dekanter. What am I missing?
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A couple of points that havent been mentioned

Check out Erics Volos article on Artifacts of Faerun in dragon magazine it mentions that the Orc throne is currently possessed by a Orc tribe in the southern high forest

In Powers of Faerun theres an adventure timeline that revolves around a recently refounded Barony near the southern edge of the High Forest

Book 1 of Richard Bakers Last Mythal series involves events in the High Forest


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A few others to add to Murray's list:- Daughter of the Drow, Forsaken House, Farthest Reach. I think there was bits in Final Gate too.

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You may also want to check out the Legacy of the Green Regents RPGA modules as they covered events in and around Loudwater however you probably wont be able to get them in print you'll probably have to use your favourite file swapping program to get them

Note: The Legacy of the Green regent RPGA modules arent a commercial product they where given away free to RPGA members running the LOGR campaign which is the only reason why Im telling you to download it from Emule, Napster etc

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Kuje
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Dungeon #88 also has a short blurb about a portal in the High Forest and the wizard tower ruins that the portal leads to.

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quote:
Originally posted by maelstrom58

Care to elaborate on that, George? That's something I've never heard before.



Ed referenced Aumvor once. In his "Pages From the Mages" Dragon magazine article in the write-up of Briel's Book of Shadows. Aumvor featured in the old REF1 Lords of Darkness accessory. Ed didn't write the parts featuring Aumvor although he may have provided some lore and/or assistance. The Aumvor in CoR is the creation of Eric Boyd. He consulted with Ed in the write-up (heck, he even consulted with me - which goes to show the weaknesses of the consultation system!) but the ever-generous Ed would never say "No. Aumvor is X, Y, Z not what you've written." He calmly and graciously accepts everyone's FR input and does what he can to make coherent linkages between sometimes disparate writing and references. So, as I said, I very much doubt that the Aumvor in CoR is the same as that in Ed's home campaign. But that's no matter. Ed doesn't mind, so neither should you.

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 27 Apr 2007 :  22:13:58  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
maelstrom58, what George just said is entirely correct. My character has never met Aumvor, and none of we Knights saw “hide nor hair of him” along the Run. However, both the Crazed Venturers and other Knights have encountered Aumvor, and he is indeed a coldly calm, patient foe who lies low until just the right moment.
If he can be “rattled” or enraged, my character has never seen nor heard secondhand of it.
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maelstrom58
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Posted - 03 May 2007 :  02:18:43  Show Profile  Visit maelstrom58's Homepage Send maelstrom58 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies, everyone--I think that should about wrap up my questions on this topic.

Sorry it took me so long to say so--my musical pursuits kept me away from technology for the past few weeks.
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