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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
 Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 21:34:34
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As you may be aware, a new FR product is due for release next year (March i think) called "Races of Faerun", Rich Baker has JUST released the following contents table....
Table of Contents
Introduction
New Regions
How to Read an Entry
Level Adjustments and ECL
Chapter One: Dwarves
Arctic Dwarf
Gold Dwarf
Gray Dwarf
Shield Dwarf
Urdunnir
Wild Dwarf
Chapter Two: Elves
Aquatic Elf
Avariel
Drow
Moon Elf
Sun Elf
Wild Elf
Wood Elf
Chapter Three: Gnomes
Deep Gnome
Forest Gnome
Rock Gnome
Chapter Four: Half-elves
Half-drow
Half-aquatic elf
Chapter Five: Half-orcs and Orcs
Gray Orc
Half-orc
Mountain Orc
Orog
Chapter Six: Halflings
Ghostwise Halfling
Lightfoot Halfling
Strongheart Halfling
Chapter Seven: Humans
Cali$H!Te (the forum wouldnt allow me write it properly as its a "bad" word  )
Chondathan
Damaran
Illuskan
Mulan
Rashemi
Tethyrian
Other Human Ethnic Groups
Chapter Eight: Planetouched
Aasimar
Air Genasi
Earth Genasi
Fey'ri
Fire Genasi
Tanarukk
Tiefling
Water Genasi
Chapter Nine: Minor Races
Aarakocra
Centaur
Goblinoids
Goblin
Hobgoblin
Bugbear
Dekanter Goblin
Kir-lanan
Lizardfolk
Lycanthrope
Lythari and Werewolf
Werebat
Werebear
Wereboar
Werecat
Werecrocodile
Wererat
Wereshark
Weretiger
Shade
Wemic
Yuan-ti
Pureblood
Tainted One
Appendix 1: Monsters of Faerūn Level Adjustments
Appendix 2: Equipment
Appendix 3: Feats
Appendix 4: Magic Items
Appendix 5: Monsters
Appendix 6: Prestige Classes
Battlerager
Bladesinger
Breachgnome
Orc Warlord
Skiprock Sniper
Spellsinger
Appendix 7: Spells
Rad
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Edited by - Lord Rad on 19 Sep 2002 21:37:45
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 23:39:09
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That sounds promising. I'll definitely look forward to that one  |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 12:56:48
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Rad, have you been able to glean some more detail regarding this product...?
<looks at calendar and wishes it was Ches/March> |
Edited by - Mumadar Ibn Huzal on 12 Feb 2003 13:02:50 |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 13:16:28
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Okay, some questions:
Elves:
What's the difference between a "wild elf" and a "wood elf"?
Half-elves:
What about the other half-types? (Half-gold, half-moon; and what about a moon/gold?)
Other:
How can lycanthropes be seperate from "Lythari and Werewolf"? Not to mention the other weres listed right after?
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 15:09:23
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It's only a contents listing of the product, and methinks the 'lycanthrope' entry is a general description of the lycanthrope phenomenon, and then it goes into some of the specific types. Just the same as it does in the 2nd edition monster books and the new 3rd edition monster books...
As to the half-thiself-half-thatelf varieties, I can't recall where, but I believe having read somewhere that the children of for instance a moon and gold elf union resemble one of the parents, not a mix...
Maybe Arion can shed some more light on this, as well as onyour other question. AFAIK, wild elves are somewhat like barbarian humans, living in simple hunter/gatherer tribes and don't have 'sophisticated' societies. The woodelves are more like frontier elves, living primarily in the woods and forests of Faerun but have more of a formailized society as well as more interaction with other races... |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 18:01:46
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Rad, have you been able to glean some more detail regarding this product...?
Nope, unfortunately not  Nothing other than whats contained on the product page here at Candlekeep.
Im really looking forward to this product though!! ::drool:: |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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AraznBlair
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 12 Feb 2003 : 19:16:56
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quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
As to the half-thiself-half-thatelf varieties, I can't recall where, but I believe having read somewhere that the children of for instance a moon and gold elf union resemble one of the parents, not a mix...
I think this was refered to in Evermeet, The Novel. Regarding a Croulnabar (sp) and his wife that became a Sea Elf priestes. I beleive the wife was related to the royal family as well. I may be wrong on that but the mating of diferent elves together was mentioned in that novel. |
Arazn Blair
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 13 Feb 2003 : 04:35:11
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| Thanks Arazn; now that you mention it, I do remember that part. |
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Ranaghar Tsaran
Learned Scribe
Poland
133 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2003 : 17:37:28
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Ummm...who is Urdunnir?
And Fey'ri?
I've never heard of them... |
"Do not be afraid of greatness. Some achieve greatness, some are born great, and some have greatness thrust upon them..." |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 17 Feb 2003 : 10:05:36
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Urdunnir are a dwarven subrace, detailed somewhat in FRCS. They have their (ancestral?) stronghold under the Almraiven(sp?) Peninsula in Calimshan. Only those creatures able to pass through stone can enter it. Mentioned in Drizzt's Guide to the Underdark if I'm not mistaken. They also appear in Dumathoin's entry in the 2e product Demihuman Deities.
Fey'ri can be found in Monsterous Compendium: Monsters of Faerun. They are elf and tanar'ri offspring, originating from Hellgate Keep, just as the Tanarukks (orc/tanar'ri) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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NiTessine
Acolyte
Finland
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2003 : 22:18:42
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| Well I located Races of Faerun in the UK on Saturday. First impressions are excellent! A worthy product, nice artwork and layout and all information is easily accessable. Its pretty much what you would expect from the title. All the main PC races and subraces are listed as well as a few uncommon\monster races. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2003 : 08:08:24
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| Is the bladesinger prestige class the same than in Faiths and Pantheons? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2003 : 09:31:09
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I made a mistake in my previous post. It was not Faith and Pantheons but Tome and Blood.
And i can now answer the question my self: no.
I think that the new Bladesinger prestige class is much better than the first released (i'll show you that Artalis )
And i'd give an A+ to this book. I was impressed by the Human section... just awesome! |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 10:34:26
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Why thanks. Eric (and myself and a few others) worked bloody hard to get all that history right. Editing mucked up some of it, but nothing that isn't fixable. In fact, we're patching the holes as we speak.
-- George Krashos
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 10:53:40
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How long did it take, from the beginning to the release of the book?
And are you paid? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 04:31:53
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No, I've never been paid for the input I've had on any FR product. I don't do it to get paid - it's a love thing.
As for the timeframe, I think we had an intensive burst of proofreading/fact checking on the Human section over the course of about 2 weeks. It usually doesn't take that long to catch the errors or make suggestions and incorporate them.
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 08:08:24
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Only 2 weeks?!
In two weeks you had to check every single entry in every singke FR bbok!
And do you also check the novels? And if the same info is different in two books, which one will you xhoose? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 09:29:29
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Well, the only real "new" stuff was the history. I've been reading (and writing) FR history for 15 years now, so it was easy to pick what didn't fit or didn't match the sources.
Much of the history for the Damarans comes from the skeleton of history (slowly being fleshed out) I mapped out for my "Soargar's Legacy" article in Dragon #277, the Illuskans came from work Eric and I (and others) have been doing for over 5 years on the history of the Fallen Kingdom (which became the history of the North generally: see my timeline), and the rest relates to preparatory work Eric did for Faiths & Avatars/Powers and Pantheons (Mulan, Turami, etc,).
Actually, it's amazing how some of our e-mail realmslore conversations over the years (many of which led nowehere or asked more questions than they answered) popped up to be dealt with in Races of Faerun. Examples are the distinction between Low and High Netheril (so as to give DMs scope to work outside Slade's abominable "Netheril" boxed set), the Talfir (which we looked at as part of the Arylon project) and the Chondathans (which had their genesis in Steven's early joint discussions preparing for Sea of Fallen Stars - i.e. Jhaamdath).
Two weeks might not sound like a long time, but I refer only to the time Eric had us proofreading his work. I'm sure it took a heck of a lot longer to write all the stuff we looked over. And as with all of Eric's FR work, the guts of it was sound, leaving only small changes to be thrashed out and implemented.
-- George Krashos
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2003 : 09:38:35
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And do you know how long it took to write the entire book?
How long i take in average? |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Oct 2003 : 22:55:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Rad
Well I located Races of Faerun in the UK on Saturday. First impressions are excellent! A worthy product, nice artwork and layout and all information is easily accessable. Its pretty much what you would expect from the title. All the main PC races and subraces are listed as well as a few uncommon\monster races.
Well, the product has been on the shelves for quite a while now - including my own - yet only now I find myself some time to give a little feedback.
For me the book has earned a fixed spot at the top of my Realms-sources, right next to the FRCS (okay, only talking 3e+ products now) The team working on the book has done a very good job in detailing snippets of history which had been spread all over the productline (see above post by George Krashos).
Though some items do indeed come across as new to the more novice fans of the Realms, and even some of the more senior ones. The detailing has definitely brought to life more of the variety of cultures living and breathing in Faerun.
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Oct 2003 : 23:25:58
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| I agree fully Mumadar this is something that has opened many eyes to the cultures of Faerun. It has opened my eyes to many more races in Faerun by giving statistics and culture for them. It is something i will suggest to all that want a more diverse campaign. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 21 Oct 2003 : 07:21:43
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| It is quite good. Only problem is, it's so good, it's contributing to the weight of my bag... |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Oct 2003 : 03:53:11
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Is $20.00 a good deal for this and 3e players guide.
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Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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Trafaldi
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 00:42:09
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| yeah you can probably resell the 3e players handbook and get the 3.5 gift set |
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William of Waterdeep
Senior Scribe
USA
829 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 00:52:41
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Sorry I was wrong.It is 3e Players Guide and Campaign Setting,also
a leather carrying case and dice.Still pretty good though. |
Courage isn't the lack of fear but rather believing in and doing what you know is right even though fear is present.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 03 Mar 2004 : 12:46:24
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Originally posted by AraznBlair
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
As to the half-thiself-half-thatelf varieties, I can't recall where, but I believe having read somewhere that the children of for instance a moon and gold elf union resemble one of the parents, not a mix...
I think this was refered to in Evermeet, The Novel. Regarding a Croulnabar (sp) and his wife that became a Sea Elf priestes. I beleive the wife was related to the royal family as well. I may be wrong on that but the mating of diferent elves together was mentioned in that novel.
This "fact" of elven genetics has been part of Realms lore for a very long time -- it comes right from the old gray boxed set. I suspect that the creators were addressing the endless permutations, and the resulting muddling of the elven subraces, that would inevitably arise from the mingling of elven races.
Anyone who games has probably run into players who mistake quilting for creativity -- you know, a patch of this, a piece of that, and you end up with players who proudly announce, "My character is a quatroon: a quarter each drow, sea elf, firbolg, and were-unicorn. He's also a druid paladin of Sune, but he wears plate armor and carries two scimitars..."
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Mar 2004 : 15:36:37
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Anyone who games has probably run into players who mistake quilting for creativity -- you know, a patch of this, a piece of that, and you end up with players who proudly announce, "My character is a quatroon: a quarter each drow, sea elf, firbolg, and were-unicorn. He's also a druid paladin of Sune, but he wears plate armor and carries two scimitars..."
::shudders::
You forgot to add the parting shot:
Player: "Here's his character sheet for you to look over." <Hands it to the DM>. "I have an Excel sheet attached to it to help you and you can borrow my calculator if you want."
DM: "I see. Pray tell me, what's the background for this character having such a diverse lineage?"
Player: <looking confused> "I don't know. I just thought it would be cool. Hey, can he have a moonblade instead of the scimitars. I figure that way with his racial bonuses. Hey! <to DM> Why are you pounding your head against the table?" |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2004 : 23:19:48
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| Yes, one of our scribes has a character who is half-avarial/half-drow. That sparked a . . . ah, 'warm' discussion. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2004 : 04:34:34
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Yes, one of our scribes has a character who is half-avarial/half-drow. That sparked a . . . ah, 'warm' discussion.
Is that the one who just posted a scroll asking for creation guidelines? I'm not so much interested in stats as the back story. What got this character's parents together? Where was she/he raised? What are his feelings towards his parents' races? Etc.. |
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