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MerrikCale
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  01:30:27  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ranin

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I would like to see stories written about this group as well



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Pasta Fzoul
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Posted - 03 Mar 2007 :  21:29:27  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My favorite generally "good" group would be Cormyr's War Wizards. I think the "FBI with wands" conceit holds a lot of creative possibilities
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Delzounblood
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Posted - 03 Mar 2007 :  23:53:41  Show Profile Send Delzounblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pasta Fzoul

My favorite generally "good" group would be Cormyr's War Wizards. I think the "FBI with wands" conceit holds a lot of creative possibilities



I agree in part! I say more like Key Stone Cops than FBI, though Mulder & Skully could be armed with wands I guess

But seriously yes the Cormyr's War Wizards are a fave of mine.

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khorne
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 :  09:43:22  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage


Though, they're still Force Gray to me!


Ditto!


They're the Gray Hands to me. Force Gray sounds far too much like something Marvel or DC cooked up.

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The Sage
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Well, WotC decided that 'Force Gray' felt inappropriate as a group name in the Realms and that 'Gray Hands' would actually be better.

Eric tells us that his bias, as always, is towards consistency (to a fault), but if he had been starting from scratch he would have definitely picked 'Gray Hands.'

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 :  21:32:27  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

Force Gray sounds far too much like something Marvel or DC cooked up.



It does. Although on the other hand, "Gray Hands" sounds a bit...I don't know, kind of plain and generic. *shrug* To me anyway.

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The Sage
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To me... 'Grey Hands' conjures up images of a religious order, rather than some elite cadre of loyal, powerful Waterdhavians able to match or exceed the power of the offenders at large. Which is what I expect when I hear the name 'Force Grey.'

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 :  23:43:57  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great point--"Gray Hands" doesn't sound especially vibrant, does it?

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nbnmare
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 :  23:53:29  Show Profile  Visit nbnmare's Homepage Send nbnmare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally I'd have just swapped the words around. To me, the name 'Grey Force' prints a picture of a small but powerful group of law enforcers, either a splinter group of or unconnected to the main body of law enforcement.

Edited by - nbnmare on 11 Mar 2007 23:53:44
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The Sage
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Well, it may just be a matter of association.

If, like Eric said, he'd started with 'Grey Hands', we likely still would've made the connection with an "elite cadre of powerful warriors" because that's what we've associated the name 'Grey Hands" with. But, 'Grey Hands' wasn't the initial term used, 'Force Grey, was. And so, we make that connection instead.

For me, it's hard to detach the image and conception of the elite cadre from 'Force Grey' and then look at the 'Grey Hands' in such a way. Which is why they remain 'Force Grey' in my campaigns.

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