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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
Germany
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 Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 12:34:49
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This time by Sean K. Reynolds. The third part of the FR "grand adventure" for 2007.
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FR3 Anauroch is the final part of a three-part series of 160-page hardcover super-adventures set in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting. It can also be easily played as a stand-alone high-level adventure. In addition to encounters, this book contains detailed source material on the land of Anauroch, home of ancient Netherese ruins and the Empire of Shade.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/978078694
Bocklin
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 16:32:08
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Now, might just be me that has missed parts 1 and 2... Who can point me int he right direction.
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 16:48:46
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Now, might just be me that has missed parts 1 and 2...
There's confusion over the border here in the flatlands as well. The links point me to The Twilight Tomb, which as "160-page adventure"s go was a tad shorter than 160. 
Anyway, I shall look forward to Anauroch.  |
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Uzzy
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United Kingdom
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At your Behest
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 17:01:31
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Parts 1 and 2 are going to be "Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave" and "Shadowdale: The Scouring of the Land" IIRC.
I have no links handy but I'm sure someone can direct you.
But a Forum search should do....
Cormyr:... will be out next month.
Edit: Dang Uzzy I told you wearing Bracelets of Speed is no fair game 
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 17:09:13
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Dank je Uzzy en Behest!
I'll look forward to all three parts. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
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MaxKaladin
Seeker
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 21:18:06
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"The Sundering of the World"?
Sigh. I don't suppose these are going to be low-key adventures, are they?
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 21:51:55
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Indeed. Good new everyone!  |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 22:25:49
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Obviously there is a bit of hyperbole in the subtitles to the adventures. Unless they plan on doing a Saga system version of Forgotten Realms (shudder) I doubt they will be permanently "Tearing the Weave," so I doubt that the "world" will literally be "sundered." Plus, if you are going to do a three hardcover campaign arc, I would expect the stakes to be somewhat high, or else its kind of hard to justify the books.
There is definately precedence in FR adventures to be "high stakes." The Twisted Rune kidnapped Halaster in the Undermountain adventures, and you have to save Tristan Kendrick in Halls of the High King. I don't mind high stakes . . . its the "let's change the status quo" bits that make me nervous from time to time.
What I find interesting is that the text of the web page says its by Sean K Reynolds, but the cover art also credits Thomas Reid and Greg Vaughan. I'm starting to wonder about the author credits on a lot of books, because Eytan mentioned here at Candlekeep how much content he has in the Magic Item Compendium, but I've not seen his name on it . . . perplexing. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 22:50:38
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Obviously there is a bit of hyperbole in the subtitles to the adventures.
No kidding. In this case it's really the subtitle that has my eyes rolling. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 22:55:39
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| It's the kind of bombast that Ed satirizes in the chapbooks Storm and Sylune like to read, and is distasteful and bad for the Realms whether or not the contents match the titles. But I ran out of ire about this and am waiting for the books. |
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MaxKaladin
Seeker
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Posted - 02 Feb 2007 : 23:24:13
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I realize there is a certain amount of hyperbole involved in these titles. I also expect that there will be a metaphorical 'sundering', so to speak. If there is anything I've learned recently from trying to figure out what all has changed in the last few years, it's that they're not afraid to have big events that affect signifcant chunks of the realms.
I suppose what actually brought the comment on was a conversation I had with a couple of my players last weekend. I was talking about all the things that had changed in the realms and was describing what had happened to Cormyr. By the time I got to the upcoming Cormyr module with it's title about 'Tearing the Weave', one of my players was laughing and shaking his head and the other one was giving me this skeptical 'and you want to run a campaign in this world' look. With that conversation fresh in my mind, I felt compelled to comment when I saw the "Sundering of the World" part.
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 02:02:52
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
There is definately precedence in FR adventures to be "high stakes." The Twisted Rune kidnapped Halaster in the Undermountain adventures, and you have to save Tristan Kendrick in Halls of the High King. I don't mind high stakes . . . its the "let's change the status quo" bits that make me nervous from time to time.
Bingo. And in 3rd Ed, City of the Spider Queen is high level and for high stakes, but doesn't necessarily shake too much up.
Your point about discrepencies between the text and cover - it's not the only one, as I mentioned in one of the other threads, the subtitles don't match up. |
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Arcanum
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 03:47:11
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Though WotC website provides the “Anauroch: The Sundering of the World” title, the line on the cover image is “Anauroch: The Empire of Shade”.
It’s weird.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 04:03:39
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Obviously there is a bit of hyperbole in the subtitles to the adventures.
No kidding. In this case it's really the subtitle that has my eyes rolling.
I know everyone can figure this out, unless they think that the point of the adventures are to be the "Apocalypse Stone" for the Forgotten Realms, which I sincerely doubt.
I guess the point that I wanted to make, upon review, is that the titles are generally made by people that aren't the ones writing the adventure. I just worry that sometimes the content of the adventure/sourcebook, what have you is judged by a REALLY bad title that some focus group somewhere swears has "impact."
I still remember that Lords of Madness was suppose to be called Codex Anethema, and Stormwrack was suppose to be called Maelstrom, but because WOTC was worried that book sellers would be too confused about the content of the sourcebook based on the titles, they "simplified" them.
For my money Codex Anethema is the coolest sounding book you could come up with for aberrations, but hey, I'm not in marketing these days. |
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Bocklin
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 07:59:36
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Obviously there is a bit of hyperbole in the subtitles to the adventures. Unless they plan on doing a Saga system version of Forgotten Realms (shudder) I doubt they will be permanently "Tearing the Weave," so I doubt that the "world" will literally be "sundered." Plus, if you are going to do a three hardcover campaign arc, I would expect the stakes to be somewhat high, or else its kind of hard to justify the books.
That is true.
I mean, the title probably refers to what happens if the characters mess up. It's probably more what they have to prevent than what is actually happening. Would be my guess.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 11:34:03
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Unless they plan on doing a Saga system version of Forgotten Realms (shudder)
Hey, I actually LOVED the Saga system! It was innovative and ground-breaking in many ways, introducing a completely new resolution mechanic that was based on storytelling. It also gave the players more control over the fate of their characters, and featured the simplest and BEST magic system I've ever seen! (Ahem, alright, except in Ars Magica ;)
I have also read that this very system has inspired some of the finest indie rpg designers. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 15:18:29
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As much as I loved the idea of the SAGA system and the products themselves I could never get a safe enough grip on the rules to actually make use of the system.
I am still a bit weary of these adventures, especially because of the bombast of the titles. Sooner or later one of these is going to have wide scale consequences. Although it could be the fall of the whole Shade thing, which wouldn't bother me. Time will show though. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 16:26:26
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Now, it did not pass by me that the two adventures (Cormy and Shadowdale) are being published this year but what I have missed so far was that they were designed as a 'three-part series of hardcover super-adventures set', according to WotC.
I wonder how much they are actually linked with each other. Judging from the 'links' provided on the respective product pages - not at all! |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 19:44:11
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Now, it did not pass by me that the two adventures (Cormy and Shadowdale) are being published this year but what I have missed so far was that they were designed as a 'three-part series of hardcover super-adventures set', according to WotC.
I wonder how much they are actually linked with each other. Judging from the 'links' provided on the respective product pages - not at all!
I thought they said from the get-go it was a three part series |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2007 : 21:57:06
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I thought they said from the get-go it was a three part series
They did, I think Ergdusch was just saying that he hadn't realised it. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 13:14:15
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
I thought they said from the get-go it was a three part series
They did, I think Ergdusch was just saying that he hadn't realised it.
Indeed, Reefy! I did not. That is, now that I have I am very intrigued to find out how exactly....
(On a side note: if the WotC product pages would provide links from one adventure of this 'series' to the others, it would make the intended connection much more obvious. But that might just be me... ) |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 23:24:51
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My fellow scribes and sages... can you spell A-S-C-O-R-E? I seriously suspect that we will finally discover the secret buried within those ominous pyramids...   |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2007 : 23:53:52
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
My fellow scribes and sages... can you spell A-S-C-O-R-E? I seriously suspect that we will finally discover the secret buried within those ominous pyramids...
Ooh, you could be on to something there? Can anyone remember asking Ed about them and getting whacked with a NDA? |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 06 Feb 2007 : 00:36:27
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
My fellow scribes and sages... can you spell A-S-C-O-R-E? I seriously suspect that we will finally discover the secret buried within those ominous pyramids...
Ooh, you could be on to something there? Can anyone remember asking Ed about them and getting whacked with a NDA?
I remember him saying something like "We sure have liked to dance around this subject..." and THEN proclaiming that this subject is covered by a bright, shining NDA? (I am not 100% sure, though...) |
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bitter thorn
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2007 : 15:19:10
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Feb 2007 : 15:59:21
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Originally posted by bitter thorn
Have they stated the level ranges for the second two yet?
Well, we've been told that it'll take a group from level 1 to 20, so one could assume that the middle one would be mid ranges of levels and the last would be higher level to get everyone to 20th. |
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bitter thorn
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Feb 2007 : 18:22:45
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I ask because I've only seen levels 4-8, IIRC, for the first one.
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by bitter thorn
Have they stated the level ranges for the second two yet?
Well, we've been told that it'll take a group from level 1 to 20, so one could assume that the middle one would be mid ranges of levels and the last would be higher level to get everyone to 20th.
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jul 2009 : 17:55:22
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
My fellow scribes and sages... can you spell A-S-C-O-R-E? I seriously suspect that we will finally discover the secret buried within those ominous pyramids...
Ooh, you could be on to something there? Can anyone remember asking Ed about them and getting whacked with a NDA?
I remember him saying something like "We sure have liked to dance around this subject..." and THEN proclaiming that this subject is covered by a bright, shining NDA? (I am not 100% sure, though...)
Heh... yes, this is an old scroll, but it's just what I'm thinking about right now, and I wasn't active in the 'Keep when the scroll was originally posted. I was very much hoping something similar when I first heard about Anauroch. I think this mystery will remain unresolved in canon until Asmodeus and Mephistopheles need new hockey gear... H-E-*double* hockey sticks, after all...
Asgetrion: The purpose of NDAs in the Brave New Realms (TM) is to keep lore forever hidden from us, regardless of the status of their associated projects. Lore is irrelevant to the play of the game (which from their point of view is all about mechanics), hence Wizbro will not publish it.
The mystery of the thirteen pyramids of Ascore is something that very much needs to be resolved in canon. Maybe Ed can persuade Wizbro that a novel is in order, since there will be no further game products in 4E... |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Jul 2009 : 18:29:42
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| Okay, we're getting into the area of assigning motives to WotC personnel. We need to shy away from stating anything as fact if there is no available concrete evidence. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 02:35:01
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Forget the unexplained pyramids with maybe a lich in it and check out the Osirion Pathfinder Companion for some very well explained pyramids. |
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