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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 09 Mar 2008 : 01:32:43
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I like.
Although, Abdel's not wearing any pants? *laughs* I find that a bit funny. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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flysoup
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Mar 2008 : 08:28:47
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I though that the male could be lightly dressed for a change since all those fantasy ladies always wear close to nothing. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2008 : 00:36:51
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Originally posted by flysoup
I though that the male could be lightly dressed for a change since all those fantasy ladies always wear close to nothing.
And I think that's perfectly understandable.
It's just that...it looks like he forgot to put pants on under his tunic. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2008 : 23:10:14
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countering the threadstealer (just kidding): #17!
http://www.freewebs.com/lepermessiahtr/17.jpg
first of all: because one COULD get the thing wrong: no, I donīt hate Elminster (wait til the next strip and things will be pretty much turned around again  )
and one has to take the events that happen in this particular strip cum grano salis
this took more than 20 hours to do and was finished in a straight
13 (!) hours-session, but I really do think it was worth it; after all, itīs FUN to do a comic 
thereīs a pretty intense (!) amount of allusions/foreshadowing/quotes/ambiguities in this one
the key to interprete this strip (cause now I have for sure reached a point where things HAVE to be interpreted to follow the story) is as usual the title, and in this case especially the alternative title:
"Can I play with madness?"
the last panel should be pretty funny once you get whatīs happening...
PS: of course Iīm willing to actually explain whatīs happening in this strip...
PPS: @flysoup: why, you can draw thatīs for sure, but why mention The Prophecy in succession of "Abdel" "murdered" - shouldnīt it be the other way round? I also would be interested which "canon" youīre following: only the book, or the game and maybe the mods? the "real" FR? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 00:39:49
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Hmm, that last bit rubbed me the wrong way, mainly because I like Elminster.
Also, once again I found it hard to figure out which order you were supposed to read some of the balloons in (specifically, the ones with the black background). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 17:07:09
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you did realize that "contradicting" events happen in this one?
continuity seems to get severely breached in this one, and thatīs why the most plausible consequence is that some of the events "didnīt" really happen this way (like Imoen killing Elminster and gaining 10+ level-ups at once, which IS possible by the rules though, as far as I can see)
thereīs at least two possible explanations:
-) some of the events happen only in somebodyīs imagination
-) the events happen in "parallel" material planes which each have slightly different preconditions which influence the way this encounter takes place
(both of the possibilities lead to THE question: WHO is actually telling this story?)
the reason I explain all this stuff:
->only because that guy looks like Elminster, talks like Elminster, and is adressed as Elminster it doesnīt HAVE to be Elminster (and just look at the style in which the "last" Elminster talks...)
the bubbles are to read from the left top side to the right top side, then from the left bottom to the right bottom side
the black background bit was stolen from 8BIT of course (funnily enough even using the same colours did make sense)
http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=011003
but whatīs important is: even though this whole strip may be just a bluff, thereīs a lot of crucial information revealed, you just have to tell the lies from the truth
this strip introduces one of the main philosophical topics this comic is about: "What is reality?."
I do admit that "things" are handled in a crude and uber-complicated way in my comic, but after all, nobody starts anything being perfect, and I am learning new things every time I do a strip
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more than fan fiction
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again, thanks for reading it! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 19:44:23
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You're welcome.
I'm aware that contradictory things were being said. But I still didn't like the Elminster scene at the end. That's just my opinion. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 22:54:56
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| so what about the other parts? |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 23:22:07
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quote:
Originally posted by Aina Grey
PPS: @flysoup: why, you can draw thatīs for sure, but why mention The Prophecy in succession of "Abdel" "murdered" - shouldnīt it be the other way round? I also would be interested which "canon" youīre following: only the book, or the game and maybe the mods? the "real" FR?
I am improvising forth the comic day by day with references to my own gaming experiences. I am not following the novel more than using the name Abdel for the protagonist and fragments of his chaotic neutral personality.
Abdel murdered? Are you sure of that yet? I had thoughts about the prophecy text as well, if it works or not. I merely used it for creating a mood before entering........ spolier:
a dream sequence at the next page. I will soon start on that page but am for the moment working with a npc mod and creating alternative portraits for bg, that can be seen here:
Portraits:
http://ballukas.deviantart.com/
Worgas mod:
http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?s=112a9f0d82bc71a2a08d6891ca8cf6ba&showtopic=25599&st=80
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 00:43:18
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I see
I mean, "Abdel" (I hate that name so much, sorry) is the son of the god of "murder", not "being murdered"; thatīs why I thought it was a rather strange moment to introduce the heritage thingy when heīs near death (instead of e.g. after killing the ankheg) but after all, there arenīt no rules on WHAT causes prophetic visions
also the presence of ankhegs just outside the Candlekeep walls might be a little bit dubious (I know itīs only a tiny detail), if you consider An Introduction to Candlekeep - by Ed Greenwood (found on the main site); thatīs why I asked which canon you use
oh, so youīre actually a modder, I might try your NPC when
"Imoen ToB" is finally out (if ever) and Iīm playing through the whole saga again (canīt wait for that to happen)
PS:
are all of your creations CN?
PPS: and the thought of Boo actually participating in a fight is pretty hilarious |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 12:29:21
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There might be many details in my comic that upset hardcore DnD fans and
Baldur's Gate fans as well.
Though since it is based mostly from gaming experiences and improvisation that is what ye get :)
Though I am not narrow minded and am always open for suggestions.
Yes I know that the name Abdel has a bad sound in many ears since it is connected to the protagonist in the novel.
And I guess all my chaotic neutral creations is a reflection of my own real life personality. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 14:00:33
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Originally posted by Aina Grey
so what about the other parts?
I thought they were fine. I look forward to seeing the next part. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 14:01:33
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Originally posted by flysoup
Portraits:
http://ballukas.deviantart.com/
*laughs* Why is everyone gritting their teeth? They look angry! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 16:00:19
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Aina Grey
so what about the other parts?
I thought they were fine. I look forward to seeing the next part.
well, I look forward to making the next part too
but a little bit more commentary please, e.g. did you get some of the allusions?
you do realize that I do this comic but for you
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"And I guess all my chaotic neutral creations is a reflection of my own real life personality." true for me as well...
-Iīm not criticizing you at all for changing stuff, artistic freedom, man
-I donīt know the novel, and how that Abdel guy acts therein, I simply dislike the name (like an American wouldnīt name his son Osama for example, I donīt know which names Swedes dislike, maybe Norwegian or Finnish ones) |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 21:29:02
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I agree to that Abdel really isn't a handsome name, but I simply used it since he is the bhaalspawn protagonist in the novel and he also exists as a DnD character with his own stats and so on.
And to th comment that my portrait's has a grin on their face, aye it is pretty funny ;) But hey who wouldn't look pissed off when constantly having to battle hordes of monsters, always followed by a new main villain. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 00:12:52
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Originally posted by Aina Grey
well, I look forward to making the next part too
but a little bit more commentary please, e.g. did you get some of the allusions?
Perhaps later, if you don't mind. My mind is trying to unwind right now.
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you do realize that I do this comic but for you
Oh come on.
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 00:16:15
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Originally posted by flysoup
And to th comment that my portrait's has a grin on their face, aye it is pretty funny ;) But hey who wouldn't look pissed off when constantly having to battle hordes of monsters, always followed by a new main villain.
*laughs* I understand, I just think the mouths look, well, unpleasant. Like they want to tear the viewer apart! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 20 Mar 2008 00:16:38 |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 23:07:53
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I have reached a crossroad and must chose between the real life and baldur's gate addiction road. I have been back and forth addicted to this game ever since the release but must now take a step back due to the time is far to narrow at the moment.
As I know there is only one wandering through the real life road and since I have so many other responsibilities to take care of at this moment I must announce a retirement from the baldur's gate realm.
Good speed and peace to you all/
flysoup |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2008 : 20:01:43
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Originally posted by flysoup
I have reached a crossroad and must chose between the real life and baldur's gate addiction road. I have been back and forth addicted to this game ever since the release but must now take a step back due to the time is far to narrow at the moment.
As I know there is only one wandering through the real life road and since I have so many other responsibilities to take care of at this moment I must announce a retirement from the baldur's gate realm.
Good speed and peace to you all/
flysoup
your criticims killed his career, RF
donīt do the same to mine |
Edited by - Aina Grey on 21 Mar 2008 20:02:03 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2008 : 23:27:09
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Yeah sure. :p
In any case, take care, flysoup, and good luck! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2008 : 19:22:28
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behold: strip #18!
http://www.freewebs.com/lepermessiahtr/str18.jpg
in which de mysteriis dom Imoen are bespoken:
this stripīs the last one of the Elminster encounter #1 plot, and actually I wanted to end it in a "propitiating" way, but alas!, sometimes it seems like I donīt write the story but itīs the other way round :-|
plot summary:
Elmy takes Im on a trip to some hell or another and threatens to leave her, only to unlock the secrets of her lost memory; for SOME reason he kills her, then  (but Iīm NOT doing the South Park bit where one character dies all the time though)
"important" stuff:
-)Elminster is (maybe) not too aware of Imoenīs (possible) Bhaalspawn heritage
-)Elminster still knows a lot more than he SHOULD know (from reading Imoenīs thoughts)
-)Elminster also knows where Imoenīs originally from (he can tell by her slang) but is too "busy" to tell her (or he simply doesnīt want to)
-)Imoen speaks Xvart (and that kinda tells something when one considers her behaviour in #13)
-)Elminster is acting on behalf of some higher power (but isnīt he always?)
-)Imoenīs (Mark 2) hair seems to be *technically* not a part of her body (foreshadowing the most incredible twist ever )
-)itīs been a quite shitty day for Im so far (not the worst of her life though, not even by far  ), but in the last but 2 panels she is really really REALLY shattered
-)the title is of course a simple anagram of "Imoen" (read her name backwards and think about what "the one" means in "The Matrix")
but some or all of those events/qualities might not be part of the main continuity, so screw you, hypothetical readers |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2008 : 19:41:52
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| Heh, I liked this one--it was cute. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2008 : 19:50:22
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Heh, I liked this one--it was cute.
congratulations, thatīs the least expected answer possible  |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2008 : 16:24:39
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I mean, really, RF, whatīs CUTE in all this mental cruelty? (other than Imoen of course, but you canīt *see* that due to the limitations of the style)
really, please! tell me what exactly you mean by cute... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2008 : 20:14:25
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I just enjoyed how the characters interacted in this one (and to me, the characters are "cute", in looks if nothing else). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aina Grey
Acolyte
Austria
43 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2008 : 12:32:24
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www.freewebs.com/lepermessiahtr/19.jpg
I am currently in the process of retconning and revising all 9 so far published strips, like unifying page sizes, kicking out metagaming and smoothening dialogues, so if you have any ideas of possible improvements, now is the exact moment to tell me... |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jun 2008 : 21:07:24
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After brawling with dull everyday grey real life issues the Baldur's Gate comic is up running again. Also started up the Hackslash Realms comic.
Check them both out at: http://www.comicspace.com/flysoup/
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2008 : 21:13:13
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| Thanks for sharing! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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flysoup
Acolyte
Sweden
11 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2008 : 21:13:29
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You're welcome, fantasy nerds like us needs to stick together.
Here is a link to my deviant art page with other various fantasy nerdship that I have drawn.
http://ballukas.deviantart.com/ |
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