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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 16:45:57
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I possess a few sourcebooks, I might say. Now on two of them I find the same elven Wizard on the front cover.
Lost Empires of Faerūn
Players Guide to Faerūn
And if I am not totally mistaken he can be found on the Cover of Forsaken House (Last Mythal Book 1) as well.
Might he actually be Araevin Teshurr, the main character of the trilogy?
(@mods: Didn't know exactly where to put this. Feel free to move it as you see most fitting.)
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Tyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 18:10:34
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| Its a different elf in Forsaken House, just they seem to have based the clothing off the ones on the two source books. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 18:19:02
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| They are the iconic's for the FR sourcebooks but as Rich explained a few times, he kept the name of one of the FR iconics for his trilogy but the characters in his novels are not the same as the characters on the sourcebooks, even if one shares the same name. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 11:04:27
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Originally posted by Kuje
They are the iconic's for the FR sourcebooks but as Rich explained a few times, he kept the name of one of the FR iconics for his trilogy but the characters in his novels are not the same as the characters on the sourcebooks, even if one shares the same name.
So Kuje, do you mean the characters on the cover of the FR sourcebooks are suppose to be recognition for all FR books like those characters that appear in all the D&D core books (Jozan, Tordek, Lidda and Mialee to name a few)?
Why don't all books depict them then? When did they start using them? And are all their names known, actually?
If all of this has been discussed previously, I appologize.  |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 12:40:49
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 16:24:14
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
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Originally posted by Kuje
They are the iconic's for the FR sourcebooks but as Rich explained a few times, he kept the name of one of the FR iconics for his trilogy but the characters in his novels are not the same as the characters on the sourcebooks, even if one shares the same name.
So Kuje, do you mean the characters on the cover of the FR sourcebooks are suppose to be recognition for all FR books like those characters that appear in all the D&D core books (Jozan, Tordek, Lidda and Mialee to name a few)?
Why don't all books depict them then? When did they start using them? And are all their names known, actually?
If all of this has been discussed previously, I appologize.
As Rich said, WOTC wanted some characters as FR iconics and so they show up in most of the covers of the sourcebooks. I'd say they started to use them since the launch of 3e FR material since those chars are on the covers of many of the 3 and 3.5e books. So, yes, like the core material, those are the FR characters like the core books has their own characters.
I don't think all of their names are known but WOTC probably knows what they are. I didn't pay much attention to them though but we know one has the same name as Rich's character, since Rich has said as much.
On December 11th, 2006 Richard Baker said in his scroll here on Keep:
" Answered this all the way back on page 3 of the thread. But I copied the post here:
I've been second-guessing myself on this one in the last couple of months. Here's how it happened:
About three years ago, we created a set of "iconic" FR characters for use in playtesting and as generic FR adventurers on covers and in illustrations--just like core D&D uses Jozan, Regdar, Tordek, and the rest. Araevin was one of these characters (a sun elf wizard, obviously), and so we occasionally used him for illos, just as we randomly cycled through various sets of these characters for different FR products. Obviously, a set of generic adventurers have higher usefulness in some products than in others--so these guys appeared in City of the Spider Queen and Underdark, but not in Shining South or Unapproachable East.
(Belmora, Sanidine, and others are also on this list of iconic FR adventurers. The whole FR team at the time tackled this list, so the characters were created by different FR designers and editors. Araevin happened to be one I made up, though, so he's mine as much as he's anybody's. Other FR iconics included Teherrun, a tiefling rogue; Evendur, an aasimar paladin; Valak Vrinn, a drow bard; and Mara, a female human barbarian.)
When I started working on Forsaken House, I knew that I wanted an elf protagonist, since the whole series was supposed to be about elves. And more specifically I wanted a sun elf protagonist, because I sort of wanted to "rehabilitate" sun elves a bit. They've come off as more lawful evil than chaotic good in a lot of the material we've done about elves. Once I settled on a sun elf wizard, I naturally began to think of him as "Araevin" and used the name as a placeholder in the early story outlines. But the placeholder grew on me, and I eventually said to myself, "I like the name, I like the look, why change it?"
Anyway, I certainly knew that we'd used Araevin in a fair amount of art in several RPG sourcebooks, but I decided to stick with Araevin-the-iconic as the vision for Araevin-the-protagonist. In retrospect, it might have been a little "cleaner" to just make up a whole new name for the guy in Forsaken House, but there it is.
Araevin clearly has a history of adventuring in Faerun, but I think it's also clear that Araevin (the Forsaken House protagonist) couldn't have stomped around in Maerimydra in the events of the City of the Spider Queen adventure, where Araevin (the iconic adventurer) happens to appear. The timing's off, since we know that close to twenty years have gone by since Araevin last adventured with his old comrades. That's one of the reasons I'm second-guessing myself on the use of the same character name.
Hope that clears things up!"
And to Merrik, no they aren't and no the iconics are not his company. :) As we can clearly see from Rich's reply. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 07 Jan 2007 16:28:48 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 17:34:18
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Well, Kuje! That answers and settles it - for me at least.
I thank thee thousandfold for I could find no rest over this matter! 
A complete list of all those iconic characters would be neat though, don't you think?!?!
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 07 Jan 2007 17:52:50 |
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Who is that guy anyway?
