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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:22:30
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I've recently purchased an mp3 player that can read pdf files, and having seen sourcebooks as pdf files, I wondered if there was anywhere similar to get novels.
I'm currently reading war of the spider queen, and loving it, but I don't take my book with me everywhere. I managed to download a collection of novels that I own from bittorrent in pdf (do the rules on backing up media count for books?), but I'd really like to get copies of all the books I own for those few moments when I find myself needing to kill some time away from home 
On another note, how does one actually make a book (like the sourcebooks) into a pdf file? Lots of scanning I assume? Maybe when I have some free time... 
Thanks scribes
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:35:23
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| I can't think of any place, legally, where you can get WOTC novels in PDF form. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Ilztfryn Claddghym
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:37:35
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| Sad isnt it I know a ton of people who downloaded it illeagally :( |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:41:51
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Not that it matters to me, I own most of the books in the collection, and the ones I don't own, I have no interest in reading
A shame though that they aren't more popular, since then they would be more available. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:45:51
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I've not seem much on legally obtaining PDFs of WotC novels. Certainly, WotC doesn't have an official policy on this...
Also, just a reminder for future participation in this scroll... Let's try to remember that certain discussions about "illegally" obtaining officially published WotC products are considered a breach of the CoC.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:48:26
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
A shame though that they aren't more popular, since then they would be more available.
I'm not really that surprised. Electronic books have been tried on and off for years, and they never really take off. Me, I'd never read a electronic book because my eyes start to ache from staring at the electronic screen. It doesn't help that I read for 2 to 4 hr's at a stretch. Also, I'd have to waste paper/ink printing it cause of the above reasons.
Plus, there's nothing like actually holding a physical book VS. a electronic version. I feel, yeah and it might be wrong, that I get something when I buy a physical book and I don't get that same feeling when I buy a electronic book. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 00:54:46
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I'll agree with most of that.
My own preferences are split, for particular reasons. PDFs of sourcebooks, I enjoy. Mostly because of the ease of the search function when trying to locate specific references, and also, because it makes them easily portable. I like to read Realms stuff at work, and having PDFs makes that easier. But, on the other hand, nothing beats picking up a 1e/2e FR sourcebook, in print, and just sitting and reading through it. The smell of older published books and the feeling of them, are an essential part of my Realms experience.
PDF novels on the other hand, are rarely something I enjoy. A few, like the various books in the "Honorverse" I can usually read through in a few hours, to a day. But, after a while, my eyes tend to get very tired, and thus, I can usually only stand to read 300-400 page novels as PDFs. Anything more, and I'm buying the printed version.
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 01:12:58
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I'm with you on both those issues Sage. Nothing like having a book in your hand, something about that feeling of turning a page
Personally I wanted them on the portable player just for those times when I wanted to read a chapter or two and was away from home.
Ah well, will settle for the ones I have . Thanks for the responses
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 23:17:03
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| I have always felt like an addict to the old fashioned version... i love the feeling of a new book between my fingers. The smell of the fresh paper and the sound of crisp new åages, never turned before gives me the chills. And the sight of all the FR novels filling my book shelves cant be substituted with a computer file of any kind. Call me old fashioned, but the traditional way works for me. And there will never be a substitute. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 23:39:34
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Originally posted by Faramicos
I have always felt like an addict to the old fashioned version... i love the feeling of a new book between my fingers. The smell of the fresh paper and the sound of crisp new åages, never turned before gives me the chills. And the sight of all the FR novels filling my book shelves cant be substituted with a computer file of any kind. Call me old fashioned, but the traditional way works for me. And there will never be a substitute.
Here, here. That's what I was saying in one of my paragraphs. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 01:36:34
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
A shame though that they aren't more popular, since then they would be more available.
I'm not really that surprised. Electronic books have been tried on and off for years, and they never really take off. Me, I'd never read a electronic book because my eyes start to ache from staring at the electronic screen.
Yeah. Screening a supplement is one thing, but when I read a novel I like to get comfortable. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 15:20:10
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
A shame though that they aren't more popular, since then they would be more available.
I'm not really that surprised. Electronic books have been tried on and off for years, and they never really take off. Me, I'd never read a electronic book because my eyes start to ache from staring at the electronic screen.
Yeah. Screening a supplement is one thing, but when I read a novel I like to get comfortable.
and maybe even reading in the bathtub...and I would hate to get electrocuted by my book!!! |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 15:39:51
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PDFs are nice for books or novels that are OOP for a long time. |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
350 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 19:29:23
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| I too very much enjoy turning pages and relaxing in my comfy chair with a cup of tea as I read the Realms! |
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Weiser_Cain
Seeker
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 05:56:09
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 13:11:10
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| Probably the same way I keep my place normally. Skip to roughly the right bit and keep skimming until I find a bit I don't recognise , then I know thats where I left off hehe |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 21:39:26
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Probably the same way I keep my place normally. Skip to roughly the right bit and keep skimming until I find a bit I don't recognise , then I know thats where I left off hehe
Some of us use these new-fangled things called bookmarks, which one can never have enough of in my experience. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 22:54:29
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Probably the same way I keep my place normally. Skip to roughly the right bit and keep skimming until I find a bit I don't recognise , then I know thats where I left off hehe
Some of us use these new-fangled things called bookmarks, which one can never have enough of in my experience.
Agreed. I have some cute kitty-cat bookmarks, myself. If you don't have bookmarks, you can make one using a good old-fashioned store receipt. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 23:08:18
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Probably the same way I keep my place normally. Skip to roughly the right bit and keep skimming until I find a bit I don't recognise , then I know thats where I left off hehe
Some of us use these new-fangled things called bookmarks, which one can never have enough of in my experience.
Agreed. I have some cute kitty-cat bookmarks, myself. If you don't have bookmarks, you can make one using a good old-fashioned store receipt. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 01:11:49
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Agreed. I have some cute kitty-cat bookmarks, myself. If you don't have bookmarks, you can make one using a good old-fashioned store receipt.
I lost my best bookmark that I've had since I was about seven in the summer. In my stupidity I gave it to the ridiculously pretty French girl who had clearly cast a timely charm person on me. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 01:30:46
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Originally posted by Reefy
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Agreed. I have some cute kitty-cat bookmarks, myself. If you don't have bookmarks, you can make one using a good old-fashioned store receipt.
I lost my best bookmark that I've had since I was about seven in the summer. In my stupidity I gave it to the ridiculously pretty French girl who had clearly cast a timely charm person on me.
I traded my bracelet to some egyptian guy in the market square in amsterdam for a beer and a model of a teddy bear 
Back on topic a little. Does anyone know the rules on owning pdf files of books that you own? Is it similar to the law that you are allowed to make backups of films/games etc for your own personal use?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 01:48:42
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You may wish to check with your own UK-based laws on copyright Kal.
There are differences in these laws between some countries, I know that -- because I noticed a few differing particulars about this for the Asia-Pacific region and its laws.
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2007 : 01:53:29
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Sometimes I wish I had more of an understanding of law than 'don't break it' , copyright laws confuse me a lot, especially when it applies to something as worldwide as the internet.
Leaves me wondering if the laws are different for out of print books too (as I believe for example roms for consoles such as the snes are legally downloadable due to the amount of time they have been out of production). Who knows? not me
I'll just leave it and say if anyone wants to discuss it further you can email me at my username @gmail.com. |
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Forgotten Realms Novels as PDF
