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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 11:44:46
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Hiya!
Is there any canon data relating to these three towns in the Shaar?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 12:24:22
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There isn't much.
Serpent Kingdoms for Kormul.
Brief references for Three Swords in Ed's Elminster Speaks articles at WotC.
Prayers from the Faithful for a very brief mention of Torsch. And Vilhon Reach.
3e's Shining South also.
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 12:26:53
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| Thanks Sage. I knew I could count on you (guys). |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 12:47:42
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*cough*
Um... Sorry to be a pain, but do you have page references or sections where the info is. I have all those books but can't find anything. Indices are wonderful things. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 14:01:58
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| Cool, thanks. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 14:50:05
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Torsh is only mentioned once in Vilon Reach on page 56.
See also the Map for Western Shaar in Shiniong South, north west corner below the Chondalwood. |
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 03 Jan 2007 16:15:40 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 16:28:01
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| Kormul is also to be wound on the map in SS. Moreover it is at least mentioned once in the entry of lake Lhespen, p. 160 (at the very end) but with not much information really. |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 16:52:48
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| Thanks Ergdusch. I know where they are already, and it's their locations which make them potentially important to my campaign hence the wondering if there was ANY canon lore on them at all. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:36:24
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| As it seems to me the lore in SS or any of the other sourcebooks is very limited. Sorry I could not be of more help to you. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 22:31:02
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The great thing is, you're free to create whatever you need if you want to use these towns for anything.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 23:08:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch
As it seems to me the lore in SS or any of the other sourcebooks is very limited. Sorry I could not be of more help to you.
As I said earlier, there isn't much.
Most of the references I've found, merely mention each of the locales in a passing reference.
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 19:02:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
The great thing is, you're free to create whatever you need if you want to use these towns for anything.
Yeah, but I like to know if there's any nice bits of canon to spur my imagination... Seems not.
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Originally posted by The Sage
As I said earlier, there isn't much.
Most of the references I've found, merely mention each of the locales in a passing reference.
No matter. Thanks for looking though!
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 06 Aug 2008 : 17:18:32
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Not directly about the topic, but a related question -
I found this thread whilst trying to find info on Torsh, while trying to find out anything else about Vaerndoun - a rather interesting place located beneath Torsh.
Anyhow, although Underdark has nary a thing about Vaerndoun, or the Illithid realm of Asglyth that runs it, I do see another site very close by - Gduar's Garden.
I'm not seeing a seperate entry for that place in Und, so does anyone else no where I can find out more about Gduar's Garden?  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 13:15:29
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No luck yet, Sage?
Thats a bad sign...
The name has me thinking Ghaunadaur (sp?)... maybe I'll check his (it's?) listing in Demihuman Deities. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 14:32:18
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"If an item does not appear in my archives, it does not exist!" 
Sorry. I couldn't pass up the chance to quote Jocasta Nu. 
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But seriously, I didn't have much luck. My guess is, this was mostly a locale written up specially for Underdark.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 16:49:51
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Anyhow, although Underdark has nary a thing about Vaerndoun, or the Illithid realm of Asglyth that runs it, I do see another site very close by - Gduar's Garden.
I'm not seeing a seperate entry for that place in Und, so does anyone else no where I can find out more about Gduar's Garden?
See "Underdark", p.188.
-- George Krashos
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 03:48:20
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George, have I told you lately how much I love you?
Never thought to look in the 'adventures' section. <d'oh!>  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 04:02:25
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| I'll note that I didn't mention that earlier because I thought you'd already seen it when you referenced Underdark above. Thus, I thought you were looking for sources besides that tome. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 09 Aug 2008 : 04:08:33
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| Nope - just noticed it on the map, is all. |
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Kormul, Three Swords, Torsch
