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Marc
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Posted - 17 Dec 2006 :  10:59:49  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Their patron deity is Sardior, right? I've seen that in Candlekeep Compendium IV is different, though I like this Kaliyet even more than Sardior (especially the part about Sossal, and how she retreated to the far north, though the Ruin doesn't mention anything about it)

Note: I have Draconomicon, DoF and I've seen the Legend of Sardior article at WotC (Scalykind domain, the only lead). I don't think I've missed anything about this subject

So what are your thoughts about this, who would you prefer

Thanks for the reply

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 17 Dec 2006 :  12:14:45  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin

Their patron deity is Sardior, right? I've seen that in Candlekeep Compendium IV is different, though I like this Kaliyet even more than Sardior (especially the part about Sossal, and how she retreated to the far north, though the Ruin doesn't mention anything about it)

Note: I have Draconomicon, DoF and I've seen the Legend of Sardior article at WotC (Scalykind domain, the only lead). I don't think I've missed anything about this subject

So what are your thoughts about this, who would you prefer

Thanks for the reply



During the rage, gem dragons - with the exception of Iltharagh (and possibly any other gem dracoliches) - fled the material plane. They may come back, but we'll have to wait and see.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Dec 2006 :  13:54:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keep in mind that though many scribes for the Compendium do cleave as tightly as possible to canon, not everyone does. Some may extrapolate in directions different that others, or some may have missed something. And, since the Compendium is a fan-based publication, it is not official (though I'd love to see parts of it become official! ).

I honestly don't recall the reference in question. And, to be quite honest, I don't know that it's ever been defined who the gem dragons of the Realms venerate. This could simply be one of those hazy gray areas where the situation is defined outside the Realms, but things in the Realms may or may not be the same.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 18 Dec 2006 :  04:29:15  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maruluthu Mistrivvin is referring my article, Reign of Dragons. The following is completely non-canon of course. Use in your campaign if you wish...

It is said that in the Days of Thunder Kaliyet, third daughter of Yaldaboath, left Merrouroboros to travel the Inner Planes for a time. There she met and befriended Sardior the Ruby Dragon, a deity unknown on Toril at the time. Sardior took Kaliyet as his consort and they soon produced many hatchlings. After a time Kaliyet grew restless and desired to return to her homeland. Without Sardior’s knowledge, she fled the Ruby Dragon’s domain with a score of her young, and returned to Toril. She soon established a Realm in the icy north in the region now known as Sossal. Today, many gem dragon’s on Toril still revere Sardior as father of their race but they will always hold an honored place for their birth mother Kaliyet.

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Edited by - Brian R. James on 18 Dec 2006 04:30:56
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Marc
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Posted - 18 Dec 2006 :  09:25:28  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye, thanks to all, I was thinking of a temple of gem dragons for an adventure in the far north. BTW I wonder what would happen to a deity if all her faithful would go to another plane

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin

BTW I wonder what would happen to a deity if all her faithful would go to another plane



Not much. It's not like the faithful can't worship from another plane.

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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Dec 2006 :  11:26:23  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin

BTW I wonder what would happen to a deity if all her faithful would go to another plane



Not much. It's not like the faithful can't worship from another plane.

Indeed.

'Tis briefly discussed in Faiths & Avatars.

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 19 Dec 2006 :  02:20:06  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my Compendium article about the plane of Dragon Eyrie in volume IV, the narrator sees the gem-faceted towers of Sardior's Ruby Castle float by through the night sky as he scales the Middle Crags.
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Twilight
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Posted - 31 Dec 2006 :  07:39:36  Show Profile  Visit Twilight's Homepage Send Twilight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are all Dragons Religous?
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Marc
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Posted - 31 Dec 2006 :  16:29:33  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They are not religious as other races, but they must pay some respect, cause there's the wall of the faithless ... IMHO

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