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Krafus
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 Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 14:37:30
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On RSEs I will say that yes, I also think they happen too quickly one after the other to give them the epic, lasting impact they should have. And I also wish they could happen in parts of the world that haven't seen much print yet, like the Old Empires and the Lands of Intrigue.
As for the elves, I don't believe the armies they've managed to field stretch the imagination too much. I've always thought that a substantial number of their population has been trained with arms or magic, so while their formal armies may be on par with a similarly-sized human realm, they've got sizable reserves to call upon if need be. If, say, 10% of Evermeet's population has received such training, that gives you a pool of some 160,000 possible recruits for an army. And let's not forget that, according to population figures, the Silver Marches have 200,000 elves. If we go again by that 10%, that could be up to 20,000 soldiers. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 15:55:42
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Originally posted by Krafus
And let's not forget that, according to population figures, the Silver Marches have 200,000 elves. If we go again by that 10%, that could be up to 20,000 soldiers.
However, that same book says Evereska only has 20,000 elves. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 22:07:37
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| And those figures also assume that all the elves in Evermeet agreed with the Crusade and sent soldiers to the mainland--they didn't. Seiveril's plan wasn't particularly popular. |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 23:25:58
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maybe they're Tolkien elves, and do everything way better than everyone else because... they're... well, Elves. Didn't you see how many orcs Legolas took out?!?! He even stabbed one through the throat with an arrow.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 23:35:29
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
And those figures also assume that all the elves in Evermeet agreed with the Crusade and sent soldiers to the mainland--they didn't. Seiveril's plan wasn't particularly popular.
That's a good point.
I don't think we'll ever be able to completely ascertain just how many elves were willing to participate in the crusade. Given rough 3e elven population numbers, and the knowledge that many elves had no desire to follow on the plan, as Rino mentions, a true lack of elven numbers sent from Evermeet to support the army in Faerun suggests a much smaller force on the mainland than many would, at least initially, believe.
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Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 : 01:57:14
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On the elven numbers every elf receives martial training in their youth (according to Races of Fearun pg 27) which means that they are more used to the way their bodies move. You cant train for 50-80 years (even if sporadically) without learning decent skills.
I dont think I have ever seen numbers who died during Nimesins invasion but if more that 10,000-15,000 I would be surprised. I have no idea on numbers during the war with the phearims, and during the Feyri crusade at least half were volunteers part of no organisation, many were wood elves and moon elves, so probably capable of living off the land. I dont think Evereska supplied to many warriors during these fights. Also according Ed elves require far less food than humans so supplies are less of a problem.
As for the human realms, history has given us plenty of examples were societies were ravaged by wars several times in quick succession, while still raising armies to fight. Generally speaking RW historical wars lasted for long periods of time with extensive razing of crops yet they still survived. Divine magic can make up those losses far easier than RW countries can so I dont really feel that is such a problem. A much larger percentage of the population during earlier ages were trained in "War arts" than today and I imagine that it would be the same in Fearun.
Now after saying all of that I would rather that WOTC would stop using RSE's, but I'm pretty sure that the various nations would be capable of surviving this. |
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An RSE complaint of a different sort
