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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:32:01  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Originally, I felt like FR was getting the short end of the stick in '07, but the more I look at it the more pleased I am becoming.

3 super adventures
1 Expedition to Undermountain (with Ed an Eric on the Billing)

It looks like they are putting some action back into FR. I know that not all of us are fans of manufactured modules, but they seem to also be putting a bit of Realmslore into these. The Scouring of the Shadowdale at least seems to have some in-depth dales-related lore.

Also, modules are one of the best ways to get new players into an old setting.

Who's Pumped?

Choices:

I''m a Sunshine-Pumper!!!
Toss the modules! ''07 is a loss...
I will reserve judgement until I read the products

(Anonymous Vote)

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Edited by - WalkerNinja on 27 Nov 2006 16:33:36

dwarvenranger
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:35:22  Show Profile  Visit dwarvenranger's Homepage Send dwarvenranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looking forward to them, just like I'm looking forward to a certain DM who shall remain anoymous getting his players their xp.

If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.

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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:39:17  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't imagine who you mean. I know of a certain esteemed DM that frequently rewards patience...

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Uzzy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:40:47  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looking forward to the new year as always. The Modules look good. Expedition to Undermountain looks great.
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Faramicos
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Denmark
468 Posts

Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:52:39  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds good, but i will limit my excitement and wait in silence for the products... Less of a dissapointment then, if they strike out. Which i doubt they will, but anyways.

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Zimme
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Denmark
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  16:59:54  Show Profile Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They sound good but i must know more before I can judge them for myself

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Romaal
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  17:27:58  Show Profile Send Romaal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll keep my judgement until they're published.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  17:44:31  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even being a Realms addicted, I will expect to see the tomes, first.

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Besshalar
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  17:48:45  Show Profile  Visit Besshalar's Homepage Send Besshalar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wait and see ... After all it's no good to start cooking the rothe if you haven't killed it yet.

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Faraer
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  17:58:53  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A whole year's product slots is a big outlay, and without seeing this trio, who can say if it'll be the best use of them, in any sense? Or if one or two would have been enough.

I can't see how new players would be drawn by high-level scenarios that presuppose investment in the Realms for their hook. (Like I said, why not give us a Dales sourcebook, then blow it up?)

I'm not concerned in the long term, because this is part of the experimenting with different formats that Rich Baker mentioned was going on.

What do you mean by 'putting some action back into FR'? In what sense was there ever a lack?
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  19:12:03  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let's wait and see...

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  19:28:07  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am going to wait and see, but I am not very optimistic. Adventures don't really interest me and changes are usually not to my liking. But again, I have been wrong before.
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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  19:35:19  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"putting the action back in FR"

By this I mean printing some meaty modules for us. As a DM, I'm a big module fan and hate converting vanilla modules to be FR. FR specific modules have so much flavor invested in them! 3E-3.5 has produced very few modules for FR, and I like the new direction that they are taking. They are converting Realmslore from Data into Information by placing it in a relevant context.

Just my opinion.

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Snotlord
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  19:50:03  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After a long series of of hit-and-miss sourcebooks, I'm excited about more adventures.

As for the why-more-trouble-in-Shadowdale drama I fail to see the big deal, FR is a game world, not a anthropology study.
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Faraer
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  20:01:40  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love scenarios, and the Realms has never been particularly well dealt with them, compared to Oerth, Athas, Krynn, Planescape or Ravenloft. It could really have done with a complex campaign adventure in the 1990s that really showed off its depth and power groups. As a game world, major events are better treated in adventures than novels, and better still left up to the DM. Though Wizards doesn't consider the Realms primarily a game world, in that the novel line is the more profitable concern.

Edited by - Faraer on 27 Nov 2006 20:02:23
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Snotlord
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  20:09:47  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
...all the more reason to be exited about adventures that seem disconnected to novels, and with author like Baker and Cordell who knows how to write good adventures.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  21:13:39  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Patience is the best to go by, IMO!

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Reefy
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  22:36:53  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

I am going to wait and see, but I am not very optimistic. Adventures don't really interest me and changes are usually not to my liking. But again, I have been wrong before.



That pretty much sums up my feelings. Adventures *do* interest me, but I have plenty of ideas and things on the go as it is. I want more regional sourcebooks ideally.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  23:41:35  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can someone please tell me the difference between a "super-adventure" and a regular, run-of-the-mill adventure?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 :  00:29:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Can someone please tell me the difference between a "super-adventure" and a regular, run-of-the-mill adventure?



I think in this case, super-adventure means a multi-volume adventure.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 :  00:32:05  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Can someone please tell me the difference between a "super-adventure" and a regular, run-of-the-mill adventure?



A Super adventure has over 100 pages (CoSQ, Red hand of Doom etc) regular module have less typically 32, 64 or 96 pages (Sons of Gruumsh etc)

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 :  00:34:57  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, thanks for the replies. At least it isn't just some meaningless marketing term.

Well, actually it sorta-kinda is, but no big deal.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 :  05:41:32  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-That three slots are being allocated to an adventure is the reason why I believe '07 is going to be a lean year for us...

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Alisttair
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Posted - 13 Dec 2006 :  15:50:13  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Although my budget has gone down significantly since buying some land, I look forward to breaking it by buying any and all FR products ;)

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Marquant Volker
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Greece
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  11:21:55  Show Profile Send Marquant Volker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its good to see FR geting some love from WotC
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hammer of Moradin
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  17:12:51  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It can even be a decent adventure and I will by some of them if they have some good MAPS! Designers please take note.

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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator

USA
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Posted - 14 Dec 2006 :  17:29:25  Show Profile  Visit LucianBarasu's Homepage Send LucianBarasu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm waiting for my eyes and hands to peruse the material, but i'm still optimistic.. hell, it IS Forgotten Realms after all..

Hammer of Moradin is right...Maps are great, they can oft times make or break an adventure.

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