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Torkael
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  07:47:30  Show Profile  Visit Torkael's Homepage Send Torkael a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I just realised something about the current rulers of Algarond, Cormyr, Evermeet and the Silver Marches.

Other than all of them being women...

- Their names all start with an A; Alassra aka the Simbul, Alusair, Alustriel, Amlaruil...

- All of them are seen as just rulers and are doing their best to keep their kingdom in one piece after certain events.

- 3 of them are Chosen

- 3 of them are well over 100 years old

- All of them would be doing something else rather than look after a kingdom if not for their responsibilities.

- This one isn't exactly confirmed but according to some, all of them have long hair



Another observation with three other Realms characters: Araevin, Galaeron and Liriel

- All three of them are magic users and went through a lot of change after discovering new sources of magic.

- They had enemies who wanted to control their powers.

- Obviously, they're all elves.

- Plus they all had human friends

- If you consider Melegaunt human enough, the human friends often wind up dead.

- They are all considered outcasts.

- None of their main enemies were truly defeated.


I'm sure there's more of such similiarities, but sometimes I wonder if how many were done consciously and how many were not.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  07:52:13  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd say it's coincidence.

Just a gut feeling

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Victor_ograygor
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Denmark
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  08:39:46  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes you´r right... This is strange(Lack of Creativity?)

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Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  11:13:20  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Naming the founding villages of Netheril after the members of Ian Gillan's band from the early 80s is a lack of creativity, but fun...I always get the chuckles when I read of Gers etc

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Jorkens
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Norway
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  14:02:43  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh don't remind me of that one. I could never take that box seriously after that reference. And that is in spite of being a Ian Gillan fan for years.
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Sian
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Denmark
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 :  12:19:53  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sorry to say but thats the same as with the conspiration teories about WTC ... theres loads of loads of info about it ... and if you look close enough you see 'some few' things that macth ... and then argue that that means that there is a higher meaning ... there aren't

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2006 :  23:06:02  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

I'd say it's coincidence.




I agree. The simplest explanation (it's just chance) is probably the correct one.

Besides, note that in both examples, the one has to be selective with the starting characters--many novels have simliar characters and plots, so if you look hard enough (and set the right parameters) you can see "striking similarities" in just about anything.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 :  03:09:33  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

if you look hard enough (and set the right parameters) you can see "striking similarities" in just about anything.



'Tis quite true... I once had this cake assignment in Communications II: we had to either compare or contrast -- not both, just one -- any two characters from the stories we'd read that semester. I made the assigment more difficult on myself: I took a guy who murdered an entire family when one person recognized him as an escaped convict, and a kid who quit his supermarket job in protest over the way his manager treated some girls in bikinis, and I compared the two. I had to stretch on a couple of the points, but my teacher was quite impressed, anyway, and said that no one had tried that one before.

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