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Kaewin
Acolyte
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 Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 01:53:25
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6662 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 11:01:11
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The Calishite assassin Thyruin of the White Flowers.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 11:17:45
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
How are the most dangerous / coolest assassin in Forgotten realms.
Let me here ure opinion
Wouldn't it be Cyric - after all he is the God of Murder now!!! 
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Assassins (guils / bands)i know of.
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Harper Assassin
Never heard of an assasin of the Harpers. Who might that be??? |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1073 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 11:33:46
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just a litel ifo about assassins.
Assassination is the deliberate killing of an important person, usually a political figure or other strategically important individual. An assassin or the assassin's employer usually has an ideological or political agenda, and regards the target as an obstacle to furthering his agenda. Other motivations may be money, as in the case of a contract killing, revenge, or acts of espionage at the request of a government. Assassination, along with terms such as terrorist and freedom fighter, is often considered to be a loaded term.
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Code of Conduct
The Assassins' Guild has a strict code of conduct. It is considered absolutely unforgivable for an Assassin to kill (or as they refer to it, "inhume") for any reason other than being paid to do so. Of course, to distinguish themselves from common hitmen, the assassins' code also demands that they be paid a very large amount to do so. After an inhumation they must by law always leave a receipt. They must also give the client (they view the victim as the client) a sporting chance. With this in mind the Guild strongly disapproves of firearms (which are, in any case, extremely uncommon on the Disc), and also of most (but not all) other mechanical or chemical weapons.
It is accepted that an Assassin may find it necessary to inhume bodyguards, including other Assassins, while on a commission. However, if these can be incapacitated without being killed, it is considered good manners to do so.
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Some governments use the euphemism targeted killing as the name for the controversial strategy to save their citizens' lives whereby anticipated acts of terrorism are prevented by assassinating a person deemed to be related to those acts.
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During the events of the Harper Assassin in the novel, Elfshadow, Danilo met the half-elven adventurer Arilyn Moonblade
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 12:29:22
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
During the events of the Harper Assassin in the novel, Elfshadow, Danilo met the half-elven adventurer Arilyn Moonblade
So am I getting this right:
their are no Assasins in the Harper organisation. But in Cunninghams novel 'Elfshadow' an assasin is killing Harper agents? And that assasin is the half-elven adventurer Arilyn Moonblade or what? |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 12:37:53
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
So am I getting this right:
their are no Assasins in the Harper organisation. But in Cunninghams novel 'Elfshadow' an assasin is killing Harper agents? And that assasin is the half-elven adventurer Arilyn Moonblade or what?
Its been a few years, but I seem to remember Arilyn being viewed as an assassin by many inside the Harper's as she was known for killing Zentharim. she was not a member of the class. Saying much more would spoil the book
As for defining an asassin outside of the class bearing the name, good luck. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Drakul
Senior Scribe
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 13:11:00
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Ranin
Seeker
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 18:07:12
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Yes yes, Entreri DOES use enchanted weapons Rinonarlyrna. That does'nt make him a spell-caster now does it. I'm sure all of the best assasins in the Realms use enchanted blades.
What I am saying is this:
My admiration of Entreri actually came from reading The Silent Blade. Entrei proved to be:
1)Versatile (when going up against a battlemage, even though he lost technically, he lasted long and knew how fight wizards)
2)Able to attract the attention and admiration of Braegen Daerthe, Jarlaxle and cohorts( They even said he fights like a drow)
3) Send shivers down the spine of any guildmaster
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 19:03:37
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The Calishite assassin Thyruin of the White Flowers.
-- George Krashos
Who might he be? I´ve never heard of him.
Personally I´d figure that the Jaezred Chaulssin and the shadow thieves employ some of the most dangerous cutthroats on Toril. |
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Drakul
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At your Behest
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 21:24:36
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That happens in the R.A. Salvatore short story in "Realms of Shadow:Return of the Archwizards Anthology".
Cheers! |
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Drakul
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 22:11:53
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Originally posted by Drakul
Is that the newest 'Realms of' book??
Nah. Realms of the Elves is the newest since that Realms of Shadow book ties in with the Return of the Shade events of early 2000. |
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Swordsage
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 06 Nov 2006 : 22:40:10
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The Calishite assassin Thyruin of the White Flowers.
-- George Krashos
Who might he be? I´ve never heard of him.
Personally I´d figure that the Jaezred Chaulssin and the shadow thieves employ some of the most dangerous cutthroats on Toril.
See the "Current Clack" in the 2E FR Boxed Set.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 00:18:04
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Originally posted by Ranin
Yes yes, Entreri DOES use enchanted weapons Rinonarlyrna. That does'nt make him a spell-caster now does it. I'm sure all of the best assasins in the Realms use enchanted blades.
My point was that Entreri doesn't only use his "sheer skill" (which he DOES have)--the life-stealing dagger is especially used quite often in the novels, even as a tide-turner.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31715 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 00:31:59
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Originally posted by Swordsage
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The Calishite assassin Thyruin of the White Flowers.
-- George Krashos
Who might he be? I´ve never heard of him.
Personally I´d figure that the Jaezred Chaulssin and the shadow thieves employ some of the most dangerous cutthroats on Toril.
See the "Current Clack" in the 2E FR Boxed Set.
-- George Krashos
And a brief mention in The North boxed set.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36792 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 02:22:24
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Swordsage
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The Calishite assassin Thyruin of the White Flowers.
-- George Krashos
Who might he be? I´ve never heard of him.
Personally I´d figure that the Jaezred Chaulssin and the shadow thieves employ some of the most dangerous cutthroats on Toril.
See the "Current Clack" in the 2E FR Boxed Set.
-- George Krashos
And a brief mention in The North boxed set.
It looks like the same info, though. But hey, the latter source is available for free from the Wizards downloads page. |
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MysticalNyte
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 : 22:23:47
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
How are the most dangerous / coolest assassin in Forgotten realms.
Let me here ure opinion
Assassins (guils / bands)i know of.
The Assassins of Zakhara (Assassin Mountain)
The Night Masks, a band of thieves, assassins - The Faceless
Fire Knives
Cult of Set
Shade Council
Harper Assassin
What about The Shadow Thieves? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 00:20:46
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Originally posted by MysticalNyte
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
How are the most dangerous / coolest assassin in Forgotten realms.
Let me here ure opinion
Assassins (guils / bands)i know of.
The Assassins of Zakhara (Assassin Mountain)
The Night Masks, a band of thieves, assassins - The Faceless
Fire Knives
Cult of Set
Shade Council
Harper Assassin
What about The Shadow Thieves?
While assassination is part of what the Shadow Thieves like to "get into", it isn't there primary function.
Then again, Victor's also included the Night Masks -- so, his qualifications for ranking a "dangerous assassin" for this listing apparently includes groups that handle other such tasks as well.
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1073 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 09:31:59
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Yes a thief guild as we know of can have many different Jobs. and i made this thread to see if i hade overseen some dangerus assassins, and i wanted to here ure opinion about the most
dangerous / coolest asassin in forgotten realsm.
And yes you´r right Shadow Thieves primary function isent assassination.
Just a thought if i made a thread about Gladiators, woud it be easier to find them ? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 17:20:06
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Yes a thief guild as we know of can have many different Jobs. and i made this thread to see if i hade overseen some dangerus assassins, and i wanted to here ure opinion about the most
dangerous / coolest asassin in forgotten realsm.
And yes you´r right Shadow Thieves primary function isent assassination.
Just a thought if i made a thread about Gladiators, woud it be easier to find them ?
I can only think of a couple of named gladiators... Gladiatorial arenas are not overly common. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 20:10:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by MysticalNyte
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
How are the most dangerous / coolest assassin in Forgotten realms.
Let me here ure opinion
Assassins (guils / bands)i know of.
The Assassins of Zakhara (Assassin Mountain)
The Night Masks, a band of thieves, assassins - The Faceless
Fire Knives
Cult of Set
Shade Council
Harper Assassin
What about The Shadow Thieves?
While assassination is part of what the Shadow Thieves like to "get into", it isn't there primary function.
Then again, Victor's also included the Night Masks -- so, his qualifications for ranking a "dangerous assassin" for this listing apparently includes groups that handle other such tasks as well.
Well Deepshadow was probably the most dangerous one out there |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2006 : 23:56:48
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Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by MysticalNyte
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
How are the most dangerous / coolest assassin in Forgotten realms.
Let me here ure opinion
Assassins (guils / bands)i know of.
The Assassins of Zakhara (Assassin Mountain)
The Night Masks, a band of thieves, assassins - The Faceless
Fire Knives
Cult of Set
Shade Council
Harper Assassin
What about The Shadow Thieves?
While assassination is part of what the Shadow Thieves like to "get into", it isn't there primary function.
Then again, Victor's also included the Night Masks -- so, his qualifications for ranking a "dangerous assassin" for this listing apparently includes groups that handle other such tasks as well.
Well Deepshadow was probably the most dangerous one out there
Well, I think that Iltharch Dannihyr might be a bit more dangerous than he ever was...  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 09 Nov 2006 : 00:16:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Yes a thief guild as we know of can have many different Jobs. and i made this thread to see if i hade overseen some dangerus assassins, and i wanted to here ure opinion about the most
dangerous / coolest asassin in forgotten realsm.
And yes you´r right Shadow Thieves primary function isent assassination.
Just a thought if i made a thread about Gladiators, woud it be easier to find them ?
I can only think of a couple of named gladiators... Gladiatorial arenas are not overly common.
Indeed.
Additionally, gladiators tend to be rare in most places, especially the North. Some particular areas, those evil or less-inclined to enforce laws against such practices, will likely have available slaves or prisoners set for such matches -- either against each other or against dangerous creatures/monsters.
We know that Amn, Calimshan, and Unther all have or have had established gladiatorial guilds also.
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Nov 2006 : 07:44:40
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Well, I think that Iltharch Dannihyr might be a bit more dangerous than he ever was...
Yes, he certainly is, but he's not an assassin, otherwise he would be dead too |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 20:09:44
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Well let's not forget that Artemis Entreri isn't exactly well known. He's certainly known to Regis but that's because he's a former member of the Thieves Guild. That's not because everyone in their right mind is aware of who the most dangerous killer in the Realms is. He only gains a reputation after he starts travelling with Jarlaxle as an adventurer as opposed to being a killer for hire.
Ghost was seemingly the greatest killer in Westgate from the Realms. I imagine most experienced killers were wiped out when Bhaal's spell annihilated them in the ToT.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 20:54:25
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I imagine most experienced killers were wiped out when Bhaal's spell annihilated them in the ToT.
Sigh,
This is still being tossed around? Look, only the assassins that worshipped Bhaal died during that spell, not ALL assassins. It's clearly stated in the FRCS. Yes, it is a retcon but it makes more sense and the only reason that the old material said ALL assassins is because 2e removed that class as a core class. |
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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 05 Jan 2007 : 21:03:34
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Yeah, duh Kuje.
Does that really not impact the fact that I imagine most experienced assassins worshiped Bhaal and that's still a truckload of them?
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