| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
 Posted - 26 Oct 2006 : 23:52:06
|
In Elfsong, a monster named as a Lorelei charms with a song a powerful paladin (Texter). I don't recall this monster from any "monster manual", does EC created it or it's stated somewhere?
|
|
|
Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 05:31:39
|
In German folklore, Lorelei was a young maiden who, pining over a lover who spurned her, threw herself into the Rhine and became a water spirit called a nixe. A nixe is something like a mermaid or a siren. She would sing songs that lured men to drown.
The name Lorelei is now often associated with mermaids and beautiful temptresses. |
 |
|
|
Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 05:42:14
|
| I saw it too on Wikipedia after I posted the OP. Now, the question is : was it stated before/after Elfsong or not at all in game terms. |
Edited by - Skeptic on 27 Oct 2006 05:42:30 |
|
|
|
Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 10:01:18
|
| I can not remember seeing the Lorelei being stated in any version of the D&D game ( I am not blessed with the best of memories, so I could be wrong about this). From what I remember of the Lorelei I would count it as a freshwater siren. |
|
|
|
Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 13:37:54
|
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
From what I remember of the Lorelei I would count it as a freshwater siren.
I agree..a sirine  |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
|
|
|
Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 13:50:39
|
| There are no stats for a "Lorelei" in any sourcebook that I can find. I cannot rule out that she might be in some obscure issue of Dragon or in an adventure module somewhere, but I think she may have been a new creature for Elfsong. |
|
|
|
Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 14:09:48
|
| Do the kelpie (kelpii, kelpies?....) sing to lure their victims or just use charm? |
|
|
|
Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 14:40:04
|
quote:
Originally posted by Kaladorm
Do the kelpie (kelpii, kelpies?....) sing to lure their victims or just use charm?
ach! I can't remember...I think the "plant" kelpies in 2E did...but kelpies in 3E are the "horse fay" type now.. |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
|
|
|
Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 16:51:02
|
I don't have my 3ed. monster books available right now, but from what I can remember from old stories the various water-horses from European legends, including the kelpie, lure their victims with their beauty to climb onto their backs before being killed, usually by drowning. But as some of these stories also tell of the creatures taking the form of maidens they could conceivably also lure by song.
And Kalin, you know perfectly well that the Sirine is a sub-species of the Siren, known for their high wailing voices used to attract young people to their doom. Sirines were known for taking male form with tight pants and long hair. They are most known for leading 70's and 80's heavy rock groups. As gaming developed away from this golden age, the Sirine disappeared in to the mists of time. |
|
|
|
Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2006 : 16:56:49
|
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
And Kalin, you know perfectly well that the Sirine is a sub-species of the Siren, known for their high wailing voices used to attract young people to their doom. Sirines were known for taking male form with tight pants and long hair. They are most known for leading 70's and 80's heavy rock groups. As gaming developed away from this golden age, the Sirine disappeared in to the mists of time.
 I know...as well as the lost art of Dis-co
 |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
|
|
|
Aglaranna
Learned Scribe
166 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 23:44:06
|
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
And Kalin, you know perfectly well that the Sirine is a sub-species of the Siren, known for their high wailing voices used to attract young people to their doom. Sirines were known for taking male form with tight pants and long hair. They are most known for leading 70's and 80's heavy rock groups. As gaming developed away from this golden age, the Sirine disappeared in to the mists of time.
*chokes* Hahaha! Now I have an excuse never to listen to disco! And everyone will give me funny looks. Now all I need is to walk around in zig zags saying "Oooh, shiny" and they'll know I'm not sane! |
"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that's clear
I will choose freewill." -'Freewill' by Rush |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Unknown monster : Lorelei (minor spoiler)
