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Ranin
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Posted - 20 Oct 2006 :  18:03:04  Show Profile  Visit Ranin's Homepage Send Ranin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Tempus' symbol is the flaming sword inside of the shield, which is rather archaic. It would seem unlikely that the barbarians of the Icewind Dales use this elaborate design given their crude nature. Are their other version's or the Lord of Battles through out the realms?

I would assume the norsemen of the tundra use a less elaborate symbol maybe?

Listen to the silence of the wilds, in there lies the wisdom of ages.

Edited by - Ranin on 20 Oct 2006 18:06:08

Faramicos
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Posted - 20 Oct 2006 :  20:38:25  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As i see it, the symbol of Tempus is mostly used by his clergy. It is not painted on every shield of the barbarian tribes. But when the symbol is used it is used in its original form out of respect of the deity...

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 20 Oct 2006 :  20:40:02  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ranin

Tempus' symbol is the flaming sword inside of the shield, which is rather archaic. It would seem unlikely that the barbarians of the Icewind Dales use this elaborate design given their crude nature. Are their other version's or the Lord of Battles through out the realms?

I would assume the norsemen of the tundra use a less elaborate symbol maybe?



I see your point but I don't think it is that elaborate...

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 20 Oct 2006 :  21:00:59  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When Ed ran Sword Coast barbarians, they used a sword planted in a bonfire as a centre of worship. It would follow that a simple flaming sword would do as holy symbol.
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Drakul
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Posted - 20 Oct 2006 :  21:01:28  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As long as they pay homage to Tempus, why should it matter?? After all, its their loyalty that is the crux of the matter.

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Zimme
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 :  17:18:15  Show Profile Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well, the ways of the barbarians is crude, but since they have both shields and swords, and simplicity in design do not hamper the ability of the god to send visions, I belive that the barbarians can easily use the symbol of tempus just as it is.

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scererar
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Posted - 22 Oct 2006 :  03:48:30  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zimme

well, the ways of the barbarians is crude, but since they have both shields and swords, and simplicity in design do not hamper the ability of the god to send visions, I belive that the barbarians can easily use the symbol of tempus just as it is.



My vision of a barbarian doesn't even use shields, just very large swords or axes. Maybe a crude hide tpye of shield, but it would most likely be dedorated with a tribe symbol.
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Zimme
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Posted - 22 Oct 2006 :  23:06:43  Show Profile Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah yes, every dm's vision of the game is different, and yes I do agree with you about the material the shield would be made of, but then they can use a hide or wooden shield in their version of the symbol of Tempus.
Some barbarians do use shields.

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

Rannek.

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Haman
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Posted - 22 Oct 2006 :  23:49:32  Show Profile  Visit Haman's Homepage Send Haman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dig your interpretation of Barbarians, a more rustic, primitive sort. But I think Primitive doesn't have to eqaute to lack of artistry or creativity.

How about a brand or a type of tattoo? Just a simple flaming sword...

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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 23 Oct 2006 :  03:08:42  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really think this question was great nice work Ranin and nice responses ppl... esp. THO.

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Ranin
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Posted - 25 Oct 2006 :  00:24:50  Show Profile  Visit Ranin's Homepage Send Ranin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks adventurers, for your responses. I just thought that the peoples who live in the cold tundra in nomadic ways following reindeer herd would'nt even recognize the flaming sword within the shield, being so isolated from cities and wealthier clergy. Their symbol might have an axe crossed with a spear and helm.

My vision of the norse barbarian is a large man with furs, coarse leather, but no chain mail, holding an axe with a wooden shield. The most common weapon would be a spear, since they are easily made and only chieftans would use a heavy iron broadsword or axe or both and only the chieftans and his sons would used shield and MAYBE crude chain mail. If a common soldier does wear mail, and elaborate metal shields they would probably have to have stolen them on raids.

Unless we're talking about Wulfgar's people of course, with access to dwarven goods and Wulfgar is no ordinary norseman in furs with is Aengis-Fang.

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