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Gellion
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 22:59:05
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Can I read the Erevis cAle books without having read the Sembia series? Or are they MUST read? I emphasize the must part as I do not have enough money to really purchase that series. For those familiar with Dragonlance, I read the Dhamon Saga before the Dawning of a New Age books and enjoyed them, so take that for what it is worth.
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"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 01:28:20
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I wouldn't say it is absolutely necessary for you to read the entire "Sembia" series before heading into the Cale books. Though I would say that you should probably read "Resurrection" from Halls of Stormweather and Shadow's Witness, which is part of the "Sembia" series, before you start on the Cale books.
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 01:47:29
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| Forget it then, I cant afford that many books now. I really dont feel like reading all that now. I will have to choose a different book to read for now. |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 01:51:15
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Sorry about the triple post but the forums are acting wonky and wont let me edit my posts. Anyways, I might get around to reading them eventually, but I wont be able to right now due to money limitations. Okay, one last time, do I REALLY need to read those books before starting on Erevis Cale? I mean, I skipped a whole trilogy of books that gave the entire backstory for Dhamon when I skipped the Dawning of a New Age, and I still enjoyed the Dhamon Saga.
EDIt: It is also a matter of my Barnaes and Noble not having the Sembia books and having the Cale books. I am looking for something to read this weekend. |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
Edited by - Gellion on 18 Oct 2006 01:52:52 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 01:52:57
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Gellion, I didn't mean to dissuade you from reading the Cale books themselves.
You are of course free to read the trilogy without first having read the other books I mentioned. It's just that, the complete-FR-freak part of me usually tends to view answers to these types of questions listing ALL the sources involved. Others can disagree, but I usually prefer to have read all the books involved before I move onto future tales involving the same character or characters. Gold pieces permitting of course...
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 02:07:09
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| I pretty much agree with Sage here. I would read them but they are not absolutely necessary. |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 02:30:27
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| I think I will pick the first book up then. It is going to hurt me just to pay for that as I am also hoping to be able to buy some expensive Dragonlance Sourcebooks too. Thanks for the help Sage and Merrikcale.:) |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 02:51:23
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Originally posted by Gellion
I think I will pick the first book up then. It is going to hurt me just to pay for that as I am also hoping to be able to buy some expensive Dragonlance Sourcebooks too. Thanks for the help Sage and Merrikcale.:)
No problem. If you do enjoy the Cale books including the Sembian series ones mentioned before, I would grab Black Wolf. I enjoyed that tremendously. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 03:59:16
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| Okay, just out of curiosity, what books are in the Sembia series? |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 18 Oct 2006 : 16:08:23
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You could always do what I did. Read the first 2 books of the sembia series, wait a while until you save up some more cash and then read the Cale trilogy. My next step is to go back and read the rest of the Sembia series.
Oh and lets not forget Shadowbred :) |
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Brenigin
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 19 Oct 2006 : 09:41:43
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Originally posted by Gellion
I think I will pick the first book up then. It is going to hurt me just to pay for that as I am also hoping to be able to buy some expensive Dragonlance Sourcebooks too. Thanks for the help Sage and Merrikcale.:)
There's your answer - skip the Dragonlance sourcebooks! |
Edited by - Brenigin on 19 Oct 2006 09:44:43 |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 19 Oct 2006 : 11:00:25
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Originally posted by Gellion
Can I read the Erevis cAle books without having read the Sembia series?
I did.
-- George Krashos
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Oct 2006 : 13:11:41
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| I did too, and I loved them. I must say though that I am ready to pick up the Sembia series when it gets re-released (I kept waiting to find a copy of Black Wolf so I could pick up the whole series). |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Oct 2006 : 22:56:12
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Originally posted by BreniginThere's your answer - skip the Dragonlance sourcebooks!
Ha, I love the realms, but I like Dragonlance more. |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 23 Oct 2006 : 17:25:44
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I read the Erevis Cale triology first, But its no matter, the sembia series are fine reading, and it dident spoil much(I dident mind).
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Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!
Rannek.
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2006 : 17:29:00
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Originally posted by BreniginThere's your answer - skip the Dragonlance sourcebooks!
Ha, I love the realms, but I like Dragonlance more.
how dare you. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
209 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2006 : 01:16:25
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Originally posted by Gellion
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Originally posted by BreniginThere's your answer - skip the Dragonlance sourcebooks!
Ha, I love the realms, but I like Dragonlance more.
He he, Woa! Infidel! yeah Dragonlance is good too. |
Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!
Rannek.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2006 : 02:06:51
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Originally posted by The Sage
Merrick is being funny, of course.
how dare you. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
253 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2006 : 01:29:53
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Concerning the Cale Series...there was a short story in Dragon Magazine about him,too, wasn´t there...that might be "enough background" if you´d happen to own that particular issue...(umm, can someone help me out with the number?)...if I remember right, it´s about his origins.
Although the Sembia Series would probably make the read a shade more delightful (with the background knowledge), I think Paul´s novels are so gripping, that you´ll surely enjoy them a lot without having read those. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 28 Oct 2006 : 14:15:59
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Again, are you jesting Merrik or trying to cause problems?
Of course, I'm kidding around. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 01:18:23
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Okay, I went go buy the first book, but none of the stores near me have it. I did not feel like ordering it then, but I did buy "A Warrior's Journey", the first book in the Ergoth Trilogy for Dragonlance.:)
I will get around to the Cale series soon, I am waiting for all those gift certificates I get at Xmas.:) |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 01:52:36
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Originally posted by Dart Ambermoon
Concerning the Cale Series...there was a short story in Dragon Magazine about him,too, wasn´t there...that might be "enough background" if you´d happen to own that particular issue...(umm, can someone help me out with the number?)...if I remember right, it´s about his origins.
There were two Cale stories in DRAGON actually. Another Name For Dawn from DRAGON #277 and And All the Sinners Saints from DRAGON #297.
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Edited by - The Sage on 29 Oct 2006 01:55:04 |
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 02:33:38
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Ah, right you are, good Sage.
Another Name for Dawn was the one I meant. But since you reminded me of the other one, I just happily re-read it..so thank you for that. |
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