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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 09:37:34
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i was just wondering how o "properly" pronounce drizzt. i understand that in the books people pronounce it "diizit"... is that really how you say it?
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 10:42:13
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| I only know how I say it, then again German is fairly straightforward in that department |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 12:44:13
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| In I think the third novel of the dark elf trilogy, a little child asks him 'What's a drizzit?' so I used that as my point of reference |
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 14:56:03
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I saw this on the WotC Board posted by a Sith Lord V
" Actually, according to Salvatore from an article I read, its pronounced " Drist ". "
I personally use this but with a hard S so it would be "driSSt"
But use what ever works for you! |
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Edited by - Delzounblood on 09 Oct 2006 14:57:57 |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 20:05:23
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I only know how I say it, then again German is fairly straightforward in that department
you say that the word drizzt is germanic in nature??? |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
704 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 21:08:40
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| I'm pretty sure the whole child pronouncing it as "Drizit" thing was meant to be a joke in the book. I've always pronounced exactly how it looks - Driz with a "t" at the end. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2006 : 21:25:09
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Originally posted by shadowni87
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I only know how I say it, then again German is fairly straightforward in that department
you say that the word drizzt is germanic in nature???
Nah, but German is a very straightforward language when it comes to pronounciation. The zz part I pronounce as in bliZZard. If you follow conventional pronounciation with inflections and all that stuff I forgot over the years out of college, it is fairly simple.
Funny thing is, tho, one of my players once wrote Bane as she heard it... "Bain" ... so you see where things can lead to |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 00:11:50
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| so what you gguys are saying is that there are multiple ways of saying it??? |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 20:34:43
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| I pronounce it 'dritst', which I'm sure I read somewhere as being the correct way to pronounce it... |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 21:40:24
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| can you tell me where you saw that, that would be awsome |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:02:10
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Originally posted by Reefy
I pronounce it 'dritst', which I'm sure I read somewhere as being the correct way to pronounce it...
That's a better way of writing the way I've always pronounced it as well. I can't be sure, but I recall Bob using that pronunciation on a couple of occasions at Gen Con. Whatever he said, it was close enough that it could only have been Drisst or Dritst. But then again, my brain may have converted what he said into something more familiar. He has message boards on his site and I'm sure they've talked about this. |
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Edited by - EytanBernstein on 10 Oct 2006 22:02:51 |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:42:36
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once agian i ask can you show proof???
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 22:50:10
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| If you ever play Baldur's Gate, listen carefully when they say Drizzt's name . . . the voice actors in the game say, DRIST when they say his name. |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 23:10:35
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but bg is NOT canon! is there no canon proof out there???
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 23:59:59
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Drizzt Do'Urden (Drist Doe-URR-den), 15th ranger, Male Drow, CG, Mielikki, Lives in Mithral Hall. Youngest son of House Do'Urden, Running the Realms.
That sourcebook is in the 2nd edition campaign box set. So, there you go. Take it or leave it. :)
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 04:10:32
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| thank you, i will look it up emedeatly |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:31:48
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
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Originally posted by shadowni87
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I only know how I say it, then again German is fairly straightforward in that department
you say that the word drizzt is germanic in nature???
Nah, but German is a very straightforward language when it comes to pronounciation. The zz part I pronounce as in bliZZard. If you follow conventional pronounciation with inflections and all that stuff I forgot over the years out of college, it is fairly simple.
Funny thing is, tho, one of my players once wrote Bane as she heard it... "Bain" ... so you see where things can lead to
Quite so, German and French are "precise" languages, which is why they were often languages of Diplomacy, with French being more commonly used since it was "easier" to learn. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:41:07
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i know that volos guide is but ive been told that the books were not
btw is there anything about this topic in volos giude??? i am truly sorry... i do not own that book volos guide |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:58:11
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Originally posted by shadowni87
...but ive been told that the books were not
Well, whoever told you that was incorrect, since we have the word of game designers, writers, and the author of the books themselves telling us they are canon.
In addition, WotC lists them as taking place in 1368 DR and 1369 DR. As well, the characters from the novels were stat’d up in DRAGON #262 for 2e and there is the Bhaalspawn template for 3e in DRAGON #288. Ed wrote the sourcebook that complements the novels -- the aforementioned Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II. And Jim Butler answered this question in 2000 on the FR Mailing List. There's also some tidbits Lost Empires of Faerun.
And finally, as I said above... the author of the last novel chimed in on the topic -
"<Ulairi> <Howdy> Are the BG games considered canon Forgotten Realms history by WotC?
<Drew2_Bio> Because of our multiple endings, the BG games can't be considered "official" in the FR world. However, the novels (including the upcoming TOB novel - another free plug for me!) are considered canon."
Basically, the novels are considered canon. You'll see that some of the characters that have featured in those games in that past, have been written-up in DRAGON, some even provide some lore on the games themselves. This also is canon. The video games themselves almost always fall into the non-canon category.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 07:58:57
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Originally posted by shadowni87
i know that volos guide is but ive been told that the books were not
btw is there anything about this topic in volos giude??? i am truly sorry... i do not own that book volos guide
Who ever told you that the BG novels are not canon is wrong, since the novels are. |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:03:05
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| thank you kuje i now know that ALL novels are canon, but i ask the question agian is there anything about this topic in volos giude??? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:06:56
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Originally posted by shadowni87
thank you kuje i now know that ALL novels are canon, but i ask the question agian is there anything about this topic in volos giude???
Well not all of the novels printed are canon. :) But 99% of them are or will be, when the in game date catches up with some of them or the events from some of them. |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:13:22
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| what books should i look out for that are not canon??? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:19:11
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Originally posted by shadowni87
what books should i look out for that are not canon???
Well the Double Diamond novellettes are still considered noncanon until 1377 rolls around. However, some will say that even then all of the plot/scenes of those novellettes are still not canon except there are sourcebook material that has been referenced for those events and Wizards has said once 1377 arrives, then the events/plot of those novellettes will be canon.
The second is, possibly, Once Around the Realms. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:22:51
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No mod, me, but I think this was discussed before...
Besides, official canon varies greatly from a gaming world's canon. Some people here on this forum did ignore the ToT, so in their world it is not canon. If I wanna introduce a tavern in Silverymoon that hasn't been mentioned anywhere else it is canon for me...provided I write down the name and don't forget it until the next session that is... |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:24:04
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| are those the only??? oh where are my manners... thank you |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:41:17
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| so mace, what you are sying is that you and i can create somthing canon just by saying its true??? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:46:27
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
No mod, me, but I think this was discussed before...
Besides, official canon varies greatly from a gaming world's canon. Some people here on this forum did ignore the ToT, so in their world it is not canon. If I wanna introduce a tavern in Silverymoon that hasn't been mentioned anywhere else it is canon for me...provided I write down the name and don't forget it until the next session that is...
Mace,
Let's try not to confuse the poor guy.
What you are talking about is DM Campaign Specific stuff for your campaign vs Official Campaign material that would be "commonlaw" to everyone. |
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shadowni87
Learned Scribe
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:52:27
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| warlockco soooo i cant do that? can greenwood or salvatore do that??? or would that take like another book??? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Oct 2006 : 08:56:37
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Originally posted by shadowni87
so mace, what you are sying is that you and i can create somthing canon just by saying its true???
For this to become True Canon, you would have to get published by Paizo in Dragon or Dungeon Magazine or by WotC as a Realms product.
Otherwise it is nothing more than "Fan" Canon, to be used or not used as a DM decides. |
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