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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 14:49:25
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I don't have access to the module where Waukeen was held hostage by Graz'zt during/after the Time of Troubles. Could someone summarise Graz'zt's motivation for doing so, how Waukeen was treated, where she was held... thanks!
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 14:56:00
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- Waukeen gave her "divinity" to Llira (sp?) to leave the Prime Plane during the ToT
- Waukeen called in a favour from Graz'zt for him to transport her to her Realm
- Graz'zt betrays Waukeen and imprisoners her in his "tri-fold" city
(I'm not sure about this part)
- Graz'zt begins a campaign to seduce Waukeen and treats her well (i.e. in a gilded cage, no torture or torment, etc.) so he will be able to take her divinity later
- Selune (or someoen tells Seulne) about Waukeen's fate and she initiates the actions that begin the module |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 15:04:34
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Originally posted by Na-Gang
I don't have access to the module where Waukeen was held hostage by Graz'zt during/after the Time of Troubles. Could someone summarise Graz'zt's motivation for doing so, how Waukeen was treated, where she was held... thanks!
The module, For Duty and Deity, is actually available as a free PDF download at WotC. See here:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
Additionally, the FRCS also details this event a little...
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 15:26:22
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| It will be MAJOR fun to let my players go through this adventure *cue evil laughter* |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 15:29:48
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I'v ran that adventure before...the big thing to me is at the end of the adventure, if you are a kind DM, you PC's party find themselves in great favour to the goddess of wealth 
and you made an eternal enemy of Graz'zt 
I'v often felt the consequences of that module to your players ahve been very underestimated... |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 16:25:03
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| Also, the adventure is a real killer... I ran it once with rather powerful characters, and they only escaped by means of a damn well formulated wish... |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
348 Posts |
Posted - 06 Oct 2006 : 16:43:39
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Silvanus79
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 17:12:11
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| If I remember correctly, wasn't that module tied in with a Planescape game and a series of novels (Planescape, as well)? Or am I confusing it with something else... Anyway, I have been through that adventure as a player and I must say, wow, it kicked our arses pretty good at the end. Smooth sailing until then, though. But wow. It was nearly a whole party kill. But, the reward was nice. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 17:15:41
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Silvanus79
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 17:25:28
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| Actually, it's quite simple. Desperation. She wanted to "beat" Ao's banishment. And, being the goddess of wealth, she figured she could bribe a demon lord into helping her. Of course, we all know what a demon lord craves most: power. And imagine Graz'zt's glee when he realized he would have a goddess at his mercy. This is one of my favorite "stories" of the Time of Troubles. So devious, full of betrayal and intrigue. Just like any Tanar'ri-related story should be! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 17:26:53
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
How could the goddess of wealth be so stupid as to rely on a Demon prince. Don't get it.
She was desparate to get back to the Outer Planes... And a goddess of merchants is going to expect a deal to be kept, when it's made. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 18:13:43
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Originally posted by Silvanus79
If I remember correctly, wasn't that module tied in with a Planescape game and a series of novels (Planescape, as well)? Or am I confusing it with something else...
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Silvanus79
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 18:36:13
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| I just did some research, and I was mistaken. It was the novel, "Tymora's Luck," that was tied in to Dragonlance and Planescape, in the Lost Gods series. Still a decent story, but not quite what I thought. Sorry to confuse! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2006 : 19:28:08
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Originally posted by Silvanus79
I just did some research, and I was mistaken. It was the novel, "Tymora's Luck," that was tied in to Dragonlance and Planescape, in the Lost Gods series. Still a decent story, but not quite what I thought. Sorry to confuse!
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 14:23:52
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
How could the goddess of wealth be so stupid as to rely on a Demon prince. Don't get it.
She was desparate to get back to the Outer Planes... And a goddess of merchants is going to expect a deal to be kept, when it's made.
I agree...and would add Waukeen is a true Neutral goddess of wealth and commerce who would deal with any alignment, at least until they betrayed Her or the deal
I wondered once if Waukeen may shift to the LN axisbecause of her ordeal...or maybe even the good morality, which then opens up the portfolio for an "evil" merchant power..thus the good and bad side of wealth and commerce |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Oct 2006 : 14:39:01
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I wondered once if Waukeen may shift to the LN axisbecause of her ordeal...or maybe even the good morality, which then opens up the portfolio for an "evil" merchant power..thus the good and bad side of wealth and commerce
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