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sparhawk42
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 Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 18:31:12
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I feel a bit silly asking this but here goes. I know that on page 7 of the FRCS gives a list of quite a few abbreviations and their meanings such as Bbn = barbarian, Abj = Abjurer, ect. But what about older abbreviations used in older supplements? I know some of the abbreviations are still the same but sometimes while reading older supplements I have trouble determining what abbreviation means what. Things like a NE hem W3/F3, I assume means a neutral evil wizard/fighter but I am unsure as to what hem means. I have run into this problem several times after picking up an older supplement. There are so many abbreviations used in all editions that I have trouble remembering what they all mean. For all I know perhaps the fact that I don't know what hem stands for doesn't have anything to do with the product I found it in being older, perhaps I just can't remember what it stands for. Does anyone know of a place to find a list of these older abbreviations? I’ve done a search here on abbreviations but I’m not talking about abbreviations for sourcebooks like RoF means Races of Faerun which it seems is what most of the links I found cover, but abbreviations used in character descriptions and the like. Thank you in advance for any help.
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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 18:35:59
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he = half elf , m = male
if I remember right, in 2E it is first race then gender...the last letter being "m" for male and "f" for female
h = human, e = elf [in brackets sometimes it's subtype), d = dwarf, half = halfling, g = gnome, ho = half-orc, he = half elf
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 18:39:57
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F Fighter/Warrior
W Wizard
W(I) Wizard (Illusionist)
W(T) Wizard (Transmuter)
W(N) Wizard (Necromancer)
W(A) Wizard (Abjurer)
WC) Wizard (Conjurer)
W(D) Wizard (Diviner)
W(E) Wizard (Enchanter)
W(IN) Wizard (Invoker)
P Priest
P(Sp) Priest (Specialty)
T Thief
B Bard
Pal Paladin
R Ranger
D Druid
LG Lawful Good
LN Lawful Neutral
LE Lawful Evil
NG Neutral Good
N Neutral
NE Neutral Evil
CG Chaotic Good
CN Chaotic Neutral
CE Chaotic Evil
h human
d dwarf
e elf
he half-elf
half halfling
g gnome
gob (goblinkin races)
m male
f female
One of the biggest things to note if you are used to 3/3.5 is that P is priest not paladin. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 18:41:13
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| Sorry, didn't mention this, but the above is how the abbreviations in 2nd edition were first introduced, taken from the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 18:43:15
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| Priest later turned into C for cleric or vice versa. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 29 Sep 2006 18:43:36 |
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maransreth
Learned Scribe
Australia
157 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 22:52:21
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| Also to note is that in the older versions stat blocks would only contain ability scores if they were note-worthy. For example S 16 (or Str 16) for Strength 16. So if you were using the stats as a base, keep in mind the abilities and the effect that would have on the NPC in play. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 23:28:44
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Originally posted by maransreth
Also to note is that in the older versions stat blocks would only contain ability scores if they were note-worthy.
More specifically, 16 or better. |
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sparhawk42
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 14:02:44
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Wow, this is great everyone! Thank you very much for all the help and examples. I now realize why I was mixing some things up. I figured that hem or hf meant only one thing not two separate things together such as half-elf male and human female. I don't know why but I guess I was assuming there would be a space in between them to separate them. Well, I still feel a little silly for having to ask something that I should have been able to figure out but I am sure glad I did ask. Thanks again to everyone for the help. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 15:42:36
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Delzounblood
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Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 22:26:00
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Sparhawk42
If I felt dumb for every stupid or silly thing I had asked on this and other forums, I would not have bought a computer and joined these forums. People like Sage and Wooly and everyone else including myself are here to help! We all started at the bottom learning, some have made FR their life and know virtually everthing, so what I'm trying to say is "If ye has a question do not be afraid to ask for in the begining we all new naught and If ye don't ask ye shall ne'er recieve!"
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sparhawk42
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 00:00:28
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Thank you Delzounblood for your kind words and thank you to Wooly and everyone else as well. There are so many people here who know so much about the Forgotten Realms that I can only hope one day to know at least half what they do. I started playing D&D when I was a little kid but my brother and I didn't really know what we were doing, we just liked running through a dungeon killing monsters.I got away from D&D for many years and then a few computer games like the Baldur's Gate games and Icewind Dale's rekindled my interest and I started reading the novels which of course then led to sourcebooks which led to more novels and then more sourcebooks which then inevitably led to my now seemingly always empty wallet. I really do love the Forgotten Realms but there seems so much to learn that it sometimes seems so overwhelming. I lurked and occasionally posted at the "official" FR site but then followed a link provided there that led here to Candlekeep. I think it was Kuje or GothicDan who provided the link although I can't remember for sure. Once I followed that link and joined this wonderful site my interest and love for the realms burned even brighter as I read the wonderful information on this site and then read, and occasionally posted in, the great discussions that take place here. The other site was nice and I occasionally check back there but I feel this site is so much more . . . I don't know, comfortable? I'm not sure if that’s the right word or not but people just seem a bit more helpful and respectful towards one another here. It's a different kind of atmosphere here. Anyway, what I guess I am saying is thank you to everyone for making this wonderful site the great place it is! Oh, and sorry about the long post but once I started this reply I realized there were a couple things I've been wanting to say and now that I think I've said them I better stop before this gets any longer! |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 04:36:30
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MUH HAHAH.
I corrupted another. :) |
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sparhawk42
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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 : 01:13:59
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