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Dracons
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 30 May 2010 : 10:13:16
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Originally posted by Bladewind
One could speculate that this Shadow Weave spiralled out of control of Shar and fused with Torils Crystal Sphere to form the current active arcane powersource. It has remained independant of any dieties influence because it whent out of typical reach of the astral domains.
So the shadow weave betrayed Shar huh? Fitting. |
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 14:39:34
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| Lord Blade Wind ...exzachary...............just what I was trying to get across....the weave existed in Mystril as light and shadow...long before Shar regained in and crafted it into the Shadow Weave. |
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jerrod
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jul 2013 : 08:42:41
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| the imaskari used shadowmagic without bowing to shar or any god.they used a ritual similar to the one the vyshaan used to wield highmagic without supporting casters.by binding fiends within their bodies. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Jul 2013 : 14:56:55
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Not only that. As the Imaskari archmage Madryoch said, the ancient arcanists of Imaskar drew magic from other planes. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 09:09:17
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It is explicitly stated that Shar created the Shadow Weave, and that it took centuries for her to do so.
And, as I said, if it was a reflection, then the Shadow Weave would be affected by dead magic areas and wild magic areas. It is explicitly stated that it is not, since it is made from the dark spaces within the Weave.
It was also explicitly stated that the Shadow Weave "broke off" the unified Weave as a result of Karsus Folly. And in the Archwizards trilogy "Karsus blood" Heavy Magic was compatible with both.
Not that one does contradict the other "hard": no one said the newly-peeled Shadow Weave was immediately useable for spellcasting at all (which is unlikely, given that for the Weave to remain mostly predictable, Mystra had to stabilize it in real time, and oops, she lost access to this part), let alone obedient to Shar. Thus "it took centuries for her to make the Shadow Weave as we know it" fits well.
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Originally posted by Snowblood
if anyone bothered to check....Selune created the weave when she tore the stuff of magic from her very substance and hurled it at her sister, Shar.
"Did one elf/orc come into being per each drop of divine blood spilled, or was it some other ratio?" 
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Originally posted by jerrod
the imaskari used shadowmagic without bowing to shar or any god.
Imaskar was gone long before Netheril appeared at all. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 09:33:31
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| Imaskar's dark period of history is called Shartra |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 17:16:33
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Originally posted by TBeholder
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Originally posted by jerrod
the imaskari used shadowmagic without bowing to shar or any god.
Imaskar was gone long before Netheril appeared at all.
I thought so at first. But some scribe (sorry, forgot who it was) pointed out otherwise with reference to specific timeline. But I’m a bit lazy to do even a little research or check my notes, so . . . |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12194 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 18:38:32
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Originally posted by TBeholder
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It is explicitly stated that Shar created the Shadow Weave, and that it took centuries for her to do so.
And, as I said, if it was a reflection, then the Shadow Weave would be affected by dead magic areas and wild magic areas. It is explicitly stated that it is not, since it is made from the dark spaces within the Weave.
It was also explicitly stated that the Shadow Weave "broke off" the unified Weave as a result of Karsus Folly. And in the Archwizards trilogy "Karsus blood" Heavy Magic was compatible with both.
Not that one does contradict the other "hard": no one said the newly-peeled Shadow Weave was immediately useable for spellcasting at all (which is unlikely, given that for the Weave to remain mostly predictable, Mystra had to stabilize it in real time, and oops, she lost access to this part), let alone obedient to Shar. Thus "it took centuries for her to make the Shadow Weave as we know it" fits well.
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Originally posted by Snowblood
if anyone bothered to check....Selune created the weave when she tore the stuff of magic from her very substance and hurled it at her sister, Shar.
"Did one elf/orc come into being per each drop of divine blood spilled, or was it some other ratio?"
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Originally posted by jerrod
the imaskari used shadowmagic without bowing to shar or any god.
Imaskar was gone long before Netheril appeared at all.
Granted, the Imaskari Empire early Dynastic period started in -7975 DR, but The Imaskari Late Period Empire (when lower and upper Imaskar were reunited and the Imaskarcana were created) was from -3920 to -2488 DR. The Netherese Empire is forming from the -3800's to say the -3500's and create their first mythallar in -3014. So, the Imaskari learn magic MUCH earlier, but the two empires do spend about a thousand years where both co-exist. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12194 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 18:42:00
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Originally posted by jerrod
the imaskari used shadowmagic without bowing to shar or any god.they used a ritual similar to the one the vyshaan used to wield highmagic without supporting casters.by binding fiends within their bodies.
I'm not doubting this is the case, because it is documented that Imaskar had involvement with fiends and it often "infected" their magic items. However, I was wondering, where is it stated that they bind fiends within their bodies in canon (was it in the novel where the Dlardrageth's perform a similar ritual or something?). |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Shadow Users... good or evil?
