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atlas689
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 Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 17:37:14
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Who are the known Chosens of the Pantheons of Faerun?
Known to me:
7 Sisters of Mystra
Khelben of Mystra
Elminster of Mystra
Srinshee of Mystra
Amaruil of Elven Pantheon
Fzoul of Bane
Yamun Kahan of Tempus (Dead)
Cadderly of Denier
Erevis Cale of Mask
Obould of Gruumsh
Shurrupak of Gilgeam
Talatha Vaerovree of Innarlith of Azuth
Malik el Sami yn Nasser of Cyric
The Rotting Man of Talona
Slarkrethel of Umberlee
Are there any others? Tempus thanks you!
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
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1618 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 19:13:10
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| I believe mask has five "chosen" of sorts. Erevis is 1st of 5, Riven is 2nd. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 19:19:25
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Canon Chosens
Mystra
Elminster
Storm Silverhand
Laeral Silverhand
Alustrial Silverhand
Qilue Veladorn
Sylune Silverhand
Khelben Arunson
Dove Falconhand
The Simbul
Noumea Drathchuld (the last current magister, before the current magister Talatha Vaerovree of Innarlith was raised to the office)
Alvaerele Tasundrym (She was the Magister back in 576 to 592DR. She's called the Silent Chosen and most have no idea she exists. She guards things the old Mystra wanted to keep secret, like where the Srinshee sleeps. She also makes sure to keep human, half-elven, and elven family trees up to date so they don’t become lost)
Symrustar Auglamyr (Deceased, according to Steven Schend)
The Srinshee
Embrae Aloevan of Ardeep
Sammaster (ExChosen)
Nadrathen, the Rebel Chosen (deceased)
Bane
Fzoul Chembryl
Cyric
Malik el Sami yn Nasser
Deneir
Cadderly Bonaduce
Pertelope (deceased)
Eilistraee
Qilue Veladorn
Eldath
Ashenford Torinbow
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers
Shinthala Deepcrest
Gilgleam
Shuruppak (ExChosen since Gilgleam's death)
Mask
Kesson Rel
Avner of Hartsvale
Erevis Cale
Drasek Riven
Mielikki
Jeryth Phaulkon
Ashenford Torinbow
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers
Shinthala Deepcrest
Oghma
Sephris Dwendon
Shar
Underdark said she has one, but name and race wasn't given.
Silvanus
Ashenford Torinbow
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers
Shinthala Deepcrest
Talona
The Rotting man (Unapproachable East)
Ubtao
Alisandra Rayburton
Dhlamass Rayburton
Ras Ni
Fipya
Kwalu
Mainu
Ossaw I
Umberlee
Slarkrathel
Malar
Anth-Malar
Lolth
Liriel Baenre (possibly but might be a ExChosen)
Another but I don't want to spoil a certain set of novels
Merrshaulk/Sseth
Pil'it'ith (ExChosen)
Sehanine Moonbow
Embrae Aloevan of Ardeep
Labelas Enoreth
Vartan Hai Sylver
The Seldarine (elven pantheon)
Queen Amlaruil of Evermeet
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 19:36:17
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| Great list Kuje! is listed within the keep somewhere? or your own compilation of the chosen? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 20:12:52
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Originally posted by scererar
Great list Kuje! is listed within the keep somewhere? or your own compilation of the chosen?
It'll be in the updated Candlekeep FAQ when Sage ever finishes it. It was originally in my WOTC FAQ and different posters put it together a few years back on the WOTC boards. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 22:42:31
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Was it ever explicitly stated that Liriel Baenre was a Chosen of Lolth? I remember some drow in those novels thinking she was, but I don't think it was ever an absolutely known fact.
Also, I'm am one of those who believe that the Chosen of Mystra are the only "Chosen" that make sense. But that's just me. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 00:45:48
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| I am too, Rino. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 01:24:42
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Originally posted by GothicDan
I am too, Rino. :)
Always good to hear there are more of us. 
I'm not against the idea of people being favored by certain gods (that's bound to happen in this setting), just the idea of "Chosen" being used as an excuse to give characters a whole laundry list of powers. Some of them don't even have much of a religious bent (such as Cadderly in the first few CQ novels--RAS said he started off agnostic). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 01:30:04
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| I still prefer to call such characters Proxies, rather than Chosen. :) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 01:31:49
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Originally posted by scererar
is listed within the keep somewhere?
It will be.
As Kuje stated, it'll be in my Candlekeep Guide to Forgotten Realms FAQ, which will be hosted here at Candlekeep.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 01:34:14
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by GothicDan
I am too, Rino. :)
Always good to hear there are more of us.
I'm not against the idea of people being favored by certain gods (that's bound to happen in this setting), just the idea of "Chosen" being used as an excuse to give characters a whole laundry list of powers. Some of them don't even have much of a religious bent (such as Cadderly in the first few CQ novels--RAS said he started off agnostic).
Heh.
You've obviously never read any of my posts on the topic. .
I never lump Mystra's Chosen together with the rest of the now more apparent Chosen of deities in the 3e FR.
Part of why Mystra's Chosen are unique is because of their role. They balance out Mystra, and store some of her power in case it's needed. They're kinda like "loyal opposition" -- they are loyal to Mystra, but they are not controlled by her, and with them having some of her power, they can act in opposition to her if she gets out of control. They are also assistants of a sort; they work to further the spread of magic, but in a pinch, they can also help to maintain the Weave.
That is why Mystra has Chosen. That is why hers are special. The other Chosen of FR deities, or rather... Divine Champions as I call them, are but pale shadows.
"Divine Champion" would work well enough for any. Or any other title of specialty that doesn't reflect a connection to the special nature of Mystra's own Chosen. There's no basis for the connection between the roles of the other "Chosen" of the various deities and Mystra's Chosen -- so the titles should be different.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 02:19:04
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Was it ever explicitly stated that Liriel Baenre was a Chosen of Lolth? I remember some drow in those novels thinking she was, but I don't think it was ever an absolutely known fact.
Which is why I wrote that she might be or she might not be. :)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 02:44:11
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Originally posted by The Sage
You've obviously never read any of my posts on the topic. .
I probably have, but have forgotten them...sorry. In any case, I agree with pretty much everything you said.
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Which is why I wrote that she might be or she might not be. :)
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:25:01
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Originally posted by The Sage
That is why Mystra has Chosen. That is why hers are special. The other Chosen of FR deities, or rather... Divine Champions as I call them, are but pale shadows.
Some Chosen get a special weapon from their Diety, maybe not directly but he/she make sure it gets to their chosen in some way, others don't get anything at all but maybe a blessing or two thrown down when they're in trouble.
The fact that Mystra and Bane's (one) chosen are the only chosen with stat'd out templates kinda goes a ways IMHO. "Favored of" would be a better way to describe a lot of the people listed here. For a lot of them, calling them chosen is just their authors way of making the character seem more important then the character really is.
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:39:25
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Originally posted by SirUrza
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
That is why Mystra has Chosen. That is why hers are special. The other Chosen of FR deities, or rather... Divine Champions as I call them, are but pale shadows.
Some Chosen get a special weapon from their Diety, maybe not directly but he/she make sure it gets to their chosen in some way, others don't get anything at all but maybe a blessing or two thrown down when they're in trouble.
The fact that Mystra and Bane's (one) chosen are the only chosen with stat'd out templates kinda goes a ways IMHO. "Favored of" would be a better way to describe a lot of the people listed here. For a lot of them, calling them chosen is just their authors way of making the character seem more important then the character really is.
Chosen of Deneir template as been statted out on the WOTC website also...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/deneir |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:01:37
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Originally posted by SirUrza
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
That is why Mystra has Chosen. That is why hers are special. The other Chosen of FR deities, or rather... Divine Champions as I call them, are but pale shadows.
Some Chosen get a special weapon from their Diety, maybe not directly but he/she make sure it gets to their chosen in some way, others don't get anything at all but maybe a blessing or two thrown down when they're in trouble.
That's not enough, for me at least, to rank these other Divine Champions as Chosen.
Mystra's Chosen really do have a definitive presence in the Realmslore. They've had that for such a long time now. The other "Chosen", for the most part, seem added-on, with little real substance beyond the fact that they sometimes have the attention of their deity.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:51:03
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Originally posted by SirUrza
For a lot of them, calling them chosen is just their authors way of making the character seem more important then the character really is.
Which is why I'm not too fond of the term...it's a way of making a character speshul (misspelled on purpose).
As for blessings that get thrown a character's way...well, don't a lot of worshippers get that every now and then? It's not exactly something unique, therefore, not enough IMO to label someone a "Chosen"...unless every devout worshipper could be said to be a Chosen (a legitimate religious viewpoint, even in the real world), which goes against the likely reason for calling a character Chosen: Making them special. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:55:05
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Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
Chosen of Deneir template as been statted out on the WOTC website also...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/deneir
Even though Deneir (like Bane, IMO) has no good reason to offer a Chosen template that gives a +4 to a character's CR along with a laundry list of ridiculous powers.
Has it been forgotten that Mystra has to expend some of her power to make a Chosen? What other deity would willingly do this, if they don't have the same role in the Pantheon that Mystra does? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 05:01:28
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Hello-
While I agree that teh Chosen of Mystra hold a special level of duty / power - possibly the term chosen - in reference to other deities is OK - from an in-game point of view.
My point? If *I* were, say Bane - and wanted to make sure people listened to my guy Fzoul - why NOT 'name' him a chosen? People would get an idea of just how Vastly Powerful he is - and give him wide berth - and or listen to what he says! Now - does Fzoul have that same level of power? No, of course not. But - Lay people have no way of knowing that. Even Mystra's Chosen (IMO) don't really know the power level of another deities' chosen - untul they tangle it up with them (or ask, I suppose). Mystra's Chosen have always been shown as being shrewd, and calculating, even if a bit headstrong. So - they may think twice before tangling it up - not being totally sure how powerful said 'new' chosen may be.
And keep in mind - it has been mentioned - that Ed liked the irony/confusion/realism of using names moe than once in an effort to keep players on their toes. This could be thought of the same sort of thing.
Now - would it be convenient if they used a game-term (like Favored of or some such) to help us players/DMs understand the difference? Sure - it would be handy - but hardly worthwhile - as we might start to use that term - and then lose a chance to scare the bejesus out of the players when you mention that the NPC foe is referring to themselves as the chosen of Moander.
YOu know - if I was more 3.5 savvy - I could almost see making a chosen Template - and then a Chosen of Mystra PrC or some such - thus making an in-game distinction. You could even give the Chosen of Mystra the chosen template if you wanted I suppose....
Just a couple of thoughts.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 05:17:57
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It's not the title "Chosen" that bothers me so much as the belief that since Mystra has a Chosen Template that gives characters a load of special powers, every deity will give out a template like that. The Chosen of Bane and Deneir templates only compound the problem. Just look at the WotC boards...how often do threads about Chosen templates pop up? Or characters who are Chosen of such-and-such deity (like that Chosen of Erevan Ilesere).
I was once caught up in the whole "Chosen" nonsense, myself, so I know it exists. |
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Sanishiver
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 08:19:08
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Has it been forgotten that Mystra has to expend some of her power to make a Chosen? What other deity would willingly do this, if they don't have the same role in the Pantheon that Mystra does?
Perhaps a deity who -being recently reborn- wishes to:
- Immediately invest in mortal enough of its power so that the mortal can protect the Deity’s primary worship center on the Prime, thus allowing the fortification to survive, which would then allow said Deity the opportunity to draw on the prayers of the faithful who dwell in that bastion.
- Make a truly rare and equally grand gesture of its new power by daring to divest it into a mortal, as a raw show of strength.
These all of course apply to Bane.
Additionally, who's to say Bane didn't foresee his own death (or make a contingency plan of sorts just in case of his demise) that had the bonus of possibly granting him more power?
Or mayhap Fzoul himself dared -at the last moment before Bane arose- to seize a share of Bane's power for himself? After, Bane could have elected to leave this power with Fzoul as reward for his extreme daring.
Lots of possibilities w' Bane.
As for the other Gods, perhaps Ao decreed that all divine beings must in time divest themselves of some of their power into a mortal or mortals, so that their hold on their divinity is less safe and secure. This could be a reaction to the events that led to the Time of Troubles.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 03:07:11
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Originally posted by Sanishiver
Lots of possibilities w' Bane.
True. I'll grant that he has a more compelling case than Deneir, anyway.
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As for the other Gods, perhaps Ao decreed that all divine beings must in time divest themselves of some of their power into a mortal or mortals, so that their hold on their divinity is less safe and secure. This could be a reaction to the events that led to the Time of Troubles.
Ah, but there's the word perhaps.
I just prefer the way it was originally intended--Chosen for Mystra only *shrug*. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 04:42:24
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I think some of this is a matter of imprecise terminology as well as a lack of full understanding on the part of mortal sages that confuses this issue.
I picture that the "chosen" of other deities do work like a "lesser" version of the Chosen of Mystra. The gods take just a bit of power, enough to "hurt" but not enough to really affect their power level (i.e. their Divine Rank or however you want to measure their power). In exchange, they get a more powerful servant that essentially acts as a "free" avatar of sorts, a being that is easier to see and hear and comprehend the world through without "spending" the power for an avatar. But just like a piece of flesh, the link decays as the "wound" that the god cut the "divine skin" from heals. Essentially what this means is that not only are these "lesser chosen" not quite as powerful as Mystra's, but they can be "unselected" by just allowing the grafted power link to decay. Not a big deal, and you move on to a new Chosen or whatever.
On the other hand, I picture Mystra's divine essence being placed in her Chosen as being more like her chopping off a limb and grafting it onto them. Its not like a patch of skin, like in the above example that is going to heal up, its something she can't get back. It won't decay on its own as long as what the limb is grafted onto is healthy (so when a Chosen changes status concering their "life force" such as Sammaster becoming a lich, the "limb" could then concievable decay and die in that case, revoking their Chosen status). This is how the statement that Mystra is essentially the most powerful goddess in the Realms can be true even though her Divine Rank is lower than some, because her Divine Rank is spread out into her Chosen as well as being contained in herself.
So in the first example, the "lesser chosen" is likely to be more amenable to thier god's demands, since they constantly have to keep their god happy to keep getting power from them to maintain the link. At the very least, they should still keep fulfilling whatever purpose for their god to be valuable enough to maintain the link. But Mystra's Chosen, with their "grafted limbs" don't have to worry about Mystra's favored or continued good graces, because dispite being linked to her and her power, thier access to that power is part of them.
If you look at how the "older" gods acted in Prince of Lies, how they were locked into very narrow thoughts and actions, and then compare that with how they seem to be now, its possible that many of them have become more dynamic by having "chosen" that remind them of what it is like to be alive and active, to be an actual being and not just the embodiment of a portfolio. Kinda like the Spectre at DC having a human touchstone so he could understand how his actions would affect the world.
Finally, the average sage hears that Mystra's Chosen are the result of Mystra investing her power in them, and as such they become more powerful and connected to her. Later on, they hear that other gods are connected to a given servant by sharing a bit of their power with them, and it gives the "chosen" more powers, its quite likely that they would use the same term "the Chosen of" for all of the gods that use this technique, because very few of them likely understand the full ramifications of how these divine power exchanges work.
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ElaineCunningham
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 12:28:42
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| I never intended Liriel to be a Chosen of Lolth. The goddess took an interest in her, and I suppose you could say she was courted (or perhaps auditioned) for the role, but Liriel rejected the goddess's overtures. She did channel the goddess's power on two or three occasions, but a long-term relationship, for lack of a better term, was not to be. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 18:24:09
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| Thanks for the insight Elaine . . . and if you think about the audition thing, it fits really well with some things that come up later in the WOTSQ books. Thanks for chiming in. |
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atlas689
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 04:45:49
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Heres a quick list to the Chosen and "Chosen" ...
Chosen of Mystra
Elminster Aumar, Chosen of Mystra
Male Human Ftr1/Rog2/Clr3/Wizard20/Archmage3/Epic4; CR 39
Clerical Spells Prepared 4/4/3
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/6/6/5/4/5/3/3/3/1/1/1/1
Storm Silverhand, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Rogue1/Fighter4/Sorcerer12/Bard8/Harper3: CR 32
Sorceror Spells Prepared 6/7/7/7/7/5/3
Bard Spells Prepared 3/4/4/2
Harper Spells Prepared 2/1
Laeral Silverhand, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Ranger 7/sorcerer4/wizard 19: CR 32
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/6/6/5/5/5/4/4/4/1/1/1
Alustriel Silverhand, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Wizard 20/Sorceress 2/Archmage2: CR 28
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/4/4/1/1
Qilué Veladorn, Chosen of Mystra and Eilistraee
Female Drow Clr16/Dis3 of Eilistraee; CR 23;
Cleric Spells Prepared 6/6+1/6+1/6+1/6+1/5+1/4+1/4+1/3+1/3+1
Syluné of Shadowdale, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Ghost Wiz20/Sor2/Ftr2; CR 30;
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/5/5/5/5/4/4/4/4/1
Sorcerer Spells Prepared 6/5
Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun, Chosen of Mystra
Male Human Archmage 3/Wizard 20/Epic 4: CR 31
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/4/4/1/1/1/1
Dove Falconhand, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Rgr14/Sor9/Rog4/Hrp1 of Mystra; CR 32;
Ranger Spells Prepared 3/2/2/1
Sorcerer Spells Prepared 6/7/7/7/4
Alassra “Simbul" Silverhand, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Sorcerer20/Archmage2/Wizard10: CR 36
Sorcerer Spells Prepared 6/8/8/7/7/7/7/5/5/6
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/6/5/4/4/3
Lady Symrustar Auglamyr, Chosen of Mystra
Female Gold Elf Sor15/Favored Soul 4/Mystic Theurge 4/Acm1; CR 29;
Sorcerer Spells Prepared: 6/9/9/8/8/8/8/7/6/7
Lady Oluevaera Estelda, “Srinshee”, Chosen of Mystra
Female Sun Elf Wiz30/Elven High Mage 10; CR 30;
Wizard Spells Prepared 4/8/8/7/7/11/11/7/6/7/3/2/2/2/2
Sammaster the demilich, Exchosen
Male Chondathan Human Wiz25/Acm5/Wearer of Purple 10; CR 48;
Wizard Spells Prepared: 4/8/8/8/7/6/6/6/5/5/4/4/3/3
Talatha Vaerovree of Innarlith, Magister, Chosen of Mystra
Female Human Wiz 17/Acm 3
Spells prepared: 4/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/4
Noumea Drathchuld , Chosen of Mystra
Alvaerele Tasundrym , Chosen of Mystra
Embrae Aloevan of Ardeep, Chosen of Mystra
Nadrathen, the Rebel Chosen
Chosen of Bane
Fzoul Chembryl, Chosen of Bane
Male Human 17 Cleric/ 2 Hie
Clerical Spells Prepared6/8/7/7/7/6/5/5/4/4
Chosen of Cyric
Malik el Sami yn Nasser the Seraph of Lies, Chosen of Cyric
Male Calishite Human Rog10; CR 10;
Chosen of Deneir
Cadderly Bonaduce, Chosen of Deneir
Male Human Clr 20; CR 24;
Song of Deneir
Pertelope, Chosen of Deneir
Chosen of Eilistraee
Qilué Veladorn, Chosen of Mystra and Eilistraee
Female Drow Clr16/Dis3 of Eilistraee; CR 23;
Cleric Spells Prepared: 6/6+1/6+1/6+1/6+1/5+1/4+1/4+1/3+1/3+1
Chosen of Eldath
Ashenford Torinbow, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Male Half-Gold Elf Brd20/Hrp2/Evangelist 2; CR 24;
Bard Spells Known: 4/6/5/5/5/5/4
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Wood Elf Drd20/Dis2/Hie2 of Silvanus; CR 24;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/6/6/5/5/4/4
Shinthala Deepcrest, Grand Cabal of the Emerald Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Chondathan Human Drd20/Dis5/Hie5 of Silvanus; CR 30;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/7/6/5/5/5/4
Chosen of Gilgleam
Shuruppak, The Reaper, Exchosen of Gilgeam
Male Human Ftr20/Rog3/Wiz7; CR 30
Chosen of Mask
Avner of Hartwick the Seraph of Thieves, Chosen of Mask
Male Illuskan Human Petitioner Rog8/Rgr9; CR 17
Ranger Spells Prepared: 2/1
Erevis Cale, Chosen of Mask
Male Human Cleric 3 of Mask/Rogue 8/Fighter 3: CR 14;
Kesson Rel, Chosen of Mask
Drasek Riven, Chosen of Mask
Chosen of Mielikki
Ashenford Torinbow, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Male Half-Gold Elf Brd20/Hrp2/Evangelist 2; CR 24;
Bard Spells Known: 4/6/5/5/5/5/4
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Wood Elf Drd20/Dis2/Hie2 of Silvanus; CR 24;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/6/6/5/5/4/4
Shinthala Deepcrest, Grand Cabal of the Emerald Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Chondathan Human Drd20/Dis5/Hie5 of Silvanus; CR 30;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/7/6/5/5/5/4
Jeryth Phaulkon, Chosen of Mielikki
Chosen of Oghma
Sephris Dwendon, Chosen of Oghma
Chosen of Shar
Underdark said she has one, but name and race wasn't given.
Chosen of Silvanus
Ashenford Torinbow, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Male Half-Gold Elf Brd20/Hrp2/Evangelist 2; CR 24;
Bard Spells Known: 4/6/5/5/5/5/4
Lady Shadowmoon Crystalembers, Elder of the Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Wood Elf Drd20/Dis2/Hie2 of Silvanus; CR 24;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/6/6/5/5/4/4
Shinthala Deepcrest, Grand Cabal of the Emerald Enclave, Chosen of Silvanus, Chosen of Eldath, Chosen of Mielikki
Female Chondathan Human Drd20/Dis5/Hie5 of Silvanus; CR 30;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/7/7/7/7/6/5/5/5/4
Chosen of Talona
The Rotting Man, Chosen of Talona
Male Half-fiend Nar Human Drd12/Talontar Blightlord 10 of Talona; CR 25;
Druid Spells Prepared: 6/8/7/7/7/7/5/5/5/5
Chosen of Ubtao
Alisandra Rayburton
Dhlamass Rayburton
Ras Ni
Fipya
Kwalu
Mainu
Ossaw I
Chosen of Umberlee
Slarkrethel, Chosen of Umberlee
Male Kraken Wiz20; CR 32;
Wizard Spells Prepared: 4/6/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4
Chosen of Malar
Anth-Malar
Chosen of Lloth
One but I don't want to spoil a certain set of novels
Chosen of Merrshaulk/Sseth
Pil'it'ith, ExChosen
Chosen of Sehanine Moonbow
Embrae Aloevan of Ardeep
Chosen of Labelas Enoreth
Vartan Hai Sylvar, Chosen of Labelas Enoreth
Male Gold Elf Clr10/Dis2 of Labelas Enoreth; CR 12;
Cleric Spells Prepared: 6/6+1/5+1/5+1/4+1/3+1/2+1
Chosen of The Seldarine
Queen Amlaruil Moonflower, “The Sad Queen”, Chosen of Seldarine
Female Moon Elf Wiz24/Elven High Mage 1; CR 25;
Wizard Spells Prepared: 4/6/6/6/6/5/5/5/5/4/1
Princess Ilyrana, Chosen of Seldarine
Female Silver Elf Clr12 of Angharradh; CR 12;
Cleric Spells Prepared: 6/7+1/5+1/5+1/4+1/4+1/2+1
Chosen of Talos
Dedrie Kendrick, Chosen of Talos
Female Human Wiz12/Clr3 of Talos/Mystic Theurge 6;
Wizard Spells Prepared: 4/6/5/5/5/5/4/3/3/2
Cleric Spells Prepared: 6/5+1/5+1/3+1/2+1/1+1
Chosen of Savras
Alaundo the Seer, Chosen of Savras
I thought of a few more like 3 or 4 some didnt have stats, Tempus thanks you!
-Atlas |
Soldiers fight, thieves steal, bards sing, wizards cast, sages think, assassins kill. Good or Evil we all have a job. So tell me this. What the hell are nobles and merchants for?
From: Thoughts of an Old Sage
by: An Old Sage (anonymous) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 03:28:34
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Lord-Prince Piper, The Golden One, Chosen of Mystra
Just for future reference: I know for a fact this is someone's homebrewed character. I've seen this character on a website years ago and had no luck finding it recently...it's safe to say this isn't an official character.
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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atlas689
Learned Scribe
123 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 06:05:21
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My bad fixed, Tempus thanks you!
-Atlas |
Soldiers fight, thieves steal, bards sing, wizards cast, sages think, assassins kill. Good or Evil we all have a job. So tell me this. What the hell are nobles and merchants for?
From: Thoughts of an Old Sage
by: An Old Sage (anonymous) |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 06:19:47
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| ... Tempus seems like a rather inappropriate patron for a list of sagely knowledge... ;) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Chosen of the Pantheons
