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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 02:55:41
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| Awesome! I like dark. :) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 03:51:23
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Am I the only one who read the title of this and thought it was about Alusair and 3 of her 30 something female friends living in Suzail?
I was thinking of Storm's past experiences as a slave girl...  
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"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."
"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367 |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 19:56:43
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| Both topics you can feel free to discuss in great lengths here. ;) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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Foxhelm
Senior Scribe
Canada
592 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 20:46:50
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Interesting how this topic has evolved.
To the gay issue...
Interesting how it seems that just the humanoid races are being mentioned? What about gay Satyr (or Lesbian Nymph and Dryad), gay liches, gay familiar for gay wizards, gay orcs (or Ogres, or Trolls) or the holy grail of gay fantasy... Gay Dragons!
Imagine the homophobic 1st level Paladin meeting Elton the Advanced Gay Red Dragon? Or his lover Will the Gay Gold Dragon? Just switch the maidens being asked for by the red to young men.
Plus dragons are said to be able to breed with anything being magical creatures. No one said anything about there being opposite sexes. Pregant men anyone? Plus magic might make this possible as well!
Then there are fetishes! Necrofilla is mentioned, which is more possible with intellegent undead. Same with beastiality or the plant version of such and act. Enchantment has the MC fetish set. Plus with halfas (Half-breeds like half-dragon or mixed creatures like Centaurs or Yuan-ti), there are more fetishes out of it.
Just some twisted sex ideas. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 21:08:50
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I wasn't mentioning only humanoids. :) As far as I'm concerned, the further various creatures would be separated from traditional evolution, the more likely homosexuality or bisexuality would be. Ultimately, sex feels good because our genes want us to reproduce... But it's up to us (for the most part) to choose how to use what nature has given us. Or in the cases of some monsters, what the gods gave them.
And remember, having sex with vampires is still a version of necrophilia... But let's not get too into this subject, eh? I'm not sure what this forum is 'rated.' ;) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 22:25:27
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Mmm. Reminds me of the khepri in Bas-Lag. Heterosexual between sentient, intelligent females and mindless males is a duty and not very enjoyable, so the females have sex with each other for pleasure.
Mieville's non-humans are so delightful. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 22:29:39
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| I agree, Winterfox. He's very good at projecting that inhuman aura. I'll have to study his work more closely. ;) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 22:34:54
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Originally posted by Foxhelm
Interesting how it seems that just the humanoid races are being mentioned? What about gay Satyr (or Lesbian Nymph and Dryad),
Nymphs and Dryads atleast in the back of my mind always seemed bisexual to me. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 22:37:37
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| Satyrs the same, for me. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 22:50:16
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Originally posted by GothicDan
I agree, Winterfox. He's very good at projecting that inhuman aura.
He kicks all kind of backsides when it comes to the weird. The Weaver's one of the scariest, most bizarre fantasy "monsters" I've come across (I adore its speech patterns so much). It's one of my gripes with most D&D "monsters" (beholders, dragons, etc) -- underneath the funny suits, their mindsets are still ridiculously mundane. Amass power, amass treasure, blah blah. So human.
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 01:31:25
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I think that, in part, is what certain supplements like I, Tyrant and the Illithiad tried to do.. With varying levels of success, at least. I remember a brief roleplay I did, playing a Ullitharid Priest of Leira... It was really weird, but I remember how challenging it was to get across that weird, alien feel.. But fun!
Ahem, now it's my turn to quit going OT. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 01:43:14
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Originally posted by Foxhelm
Then there are fetishes! Necrofilla is mentioned, which is more possible with intellegent undead. Same with beastiality or the plant version of such and act. Enchantment has the MC fetish set. Plus with halfas (Half-breeds like half-dragon or mixed creatures like Centaurs or Yuan-ti), there are more fetishes out of it.
Oh, yeah! I'm still waiting for a nice, juicy, man/aboleth sex scene. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 02:29:48
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Oh, yeah! I'm still waiting for a nice, juicy, man/aboleth sex scene.
That would be waaaay to anime for the Realms.
As for the other fetishs, if I'm not mistaken the Book of Erotic Fantasy dealt with some of the side effects (and STDs) of such scenerios. A place like Skullport might be a prefect setting for use of it. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 04:33:56
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| Thank you, Rin. I no longer need to eat dinner. That is, perhaps, going a bit far. :) |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 04:48:46
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Oh, Rin, msatran, I CAN'T resist.
From one of Ed's (unpublished) 1978 Realms short stories (and no, it wasn't written as a man/aboleth sex scene; rather, it's the experience of enduring a hostile spell, but try it on for size):
". . . He stiffened and gasped, frozen in the attempt to breathe, as it surged up and into him, so cold and chokingly SLIMY, a cold that numbed and yet BURNED."
 Sorry. No, really.
love,
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 04:58:27
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Just when I got those buffalo patties on the grill, too. :) Thanks, Milady.
Seriously, though, I think we can do without overdescribed slime rape in the Realms. Well written erotica is exactly that. But overdescribed slime rape is still pretty vile and should be avoided. :) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 05:03:50
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 05:52:56
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Oh, Rin, msatran, I CAN'T resist.
From one of Ed's (unpublished) 1978 Realms short stories (and no, it wasn't written as a man/aboleth sex scene; rather, it's the experience of enduring a hostile spell, but try it on for size):
". . . He stiffened and gasped, frozen in the attempt to breathe, as it surged up and into him, so cold and chokingly SLIMY, a cold that numbed and yet BURNED."
Sorry. No, really.
love,
THO
That's just awesome--Ed's thought of everything! Thanks for sharing!
msatran--Sorry.  |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 15 Jul 2006 05:53:17 |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 06:14:12
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| Oh god. I <3 Ed. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 13:38:50
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| Now that's exactly what someone wants to wake up to in the morning..... not really. Thanks THO, Ed does really think of everything.. and you must have an amazing memory to remember he wrote something like that from 28 years ago. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 16:01:56
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Hardly.
No, I have the story text, typed out by Ed and photoblasted for us all, sitting right in front of me. And no, you can't "see" any more unless he okays it.
Buffalo patties, msatran? Yummm. Ed fed me moose stew during my last visit. And fresh-caught pickerel the time before that.
Ed once wrote a parody of bodice-ripper soft porn novels for us, entitled "The Adventures of Cleo and Arundulph." Cleo was a princess, and Arundulph the leader of the barbarians who conquered her realm and sacked her castle, who came bounding into her bedchamber to conquer her.
It was an utter scream to read, especially if you've ever hard to edit such stuff in real life (whatever THAT is).
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 16:47:16
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| Moose stew?! I though everyone knew that moose taste at its best either as steak (with potatoes, brown creamy sauce, lingonberry-jam, and some pickled cucumbers on the side), or as meatballs. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 17:08:27
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Moose stew?! I though everyone knew that moose taste at its best either as steak (with potatoes, brown creamy sauce, lingonberry-jam, and some pickled cucumbers on the side), or as meatballs.
I try to avoid moose... I've heard that moose bites can be nasty.
(Five absolutely valueless points to whoever catches that reference! )
Besides, down here, you're far more likely to find gator or shark meat, instead of moose. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 17:14:35
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Monty Python and the Holy Grail credits I believe.
And Moose does taste more or less like beef. Deer and caribou and others of the family have a far more distinguishable taste. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 17:54:36
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Originally posted by Jorkens
Monty Python and the Holy Grail credits I believe.
Yup! It's one of those minor bits that still manages to really amuse me. |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 20:20:21
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Well, in deference to the topic of this thread:
Moose, say some while waxing witty,
Are Deer, designed by a committee.
This isn't true. God made the moose
From blueprints drawn by Dr. Seuss.
In all seriousness, though, I'm just waiting for that moment where some deity waves his hand and there is an immaculate conception, or a new race spawns from whole cloth. Unfortunately, the primary candidate for doing this is...well...Lathander! "I think Toril needs a new race!" FWOOMP! From Shadowdale, Elminster just looks up and blinks and says "What the !@$45!! was that?"
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 02:21:15
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Originally posted by Shere Khan
In addition, I don't believe that FR novels (excepting Salvatore's works) have penetrated particularly far into the female demographic.
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I'd have thought most of Salvatore's readers are teenage males.
Heh, I think a lot of teenage girls read Drizzt too if the site Lavender Eyes is any indication. |
"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 05:18:30
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Drizzt is so not hot.
... At least not compared to Josidiah Starym. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 08:32:06
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Originally posted by Gellion
Heh, I think a lot of teenage girls read Drizzt too if the site Lavender Eyes is any indication.
Granted, but I've found that in most fandoms, the fanfiction-writing circles are female-dominated. This is true for nearly all that I'm familiar with: LOTR, Harry Potter, Star Wars: KotOR, etc. I don't think there're more female Harry Potter or KotOR fans than there are male ones, but it's just that the male ones don't write as much. (Of course, I've no hard evidence. Entirely possible that there are more female fans for either of these fandoms, but KotOR is a video game.) |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 15:21:07
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Full agreement, Winterfox.
And if the admittedly spotty market research done by most of the major American publishing houses holds true, we fairer sex quietly dominate personal book-buying, book-buying as presents for others by a HUGE margin, and "faithful" (i.e. series "fan") reading patterns.
According to Ed, female borrowers have always outnumbered male borrowers in the public libraries he's worked in, too, over thirty-some years.
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