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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  02:43:16  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Fellow scribes, behold a vision from next year . . .

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0786941197/qid=1151631683/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_2_7/701-6014151-6904357



Now, what might it mean?

And does anyone want to take bets on the fact that nobody will say a word about it for quite a while . . .

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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  02:51:27  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Given the odd title Id imagine its another MoM type book........

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  02:54:49  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps, but that whole "Tearing of the Weave" sounds ominous . . .
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Perhaps, but that whole "Tearing of the Weave" sounds ominous . . .



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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  03:36:20  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Perhaps, but that whole "Tearing of the Weave" sounds ominous . . .



maybe the shadow and regular weave are going to be become 2 seperate source of magic as opposed to the Shadow weave being the gaps between the weave

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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  04:13:00  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a good bet that it has something to do with Tilverton. I would have assumed that it was an adventure but with the list price that is unlikely, unless it's a mega-adventure.

From the title it does sound like something different from the norm. Whether it is like Mysteries of the Moonsea or something completely new is anybodies guess. But it definitely doesn't look like a title for a typical regional sourcebook.
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  05:41:47  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder if it's an adventure-book based in Cormyr, with perhaps a more of an overall arc throughout it, centered around perhaps some sort of Weave-based trauma.

I bet it'll have lots about the Shadow Weave in it.

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Chyron
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  05:41:51  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Dargoth, the name/title seems a bit odd (not like the titles of the other 3E Realms products to date). I wonder if any designers can comment if this is just a 'working title' or if it is official. Still, it seems like an intriguing product.

Also noticed that it does not appear on the US based amazon.com site. I wonder why Canada got the news first?

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Swordsage
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I have high hopes for this book. But the author list does leave me underwhelmed. Dave Noonan has written no FR stuff, Bruce Cordell did the average Underdark book (where most of the lore was rehashed from DDGttU) and Rich Baker who I respect as a writer and designer but is yet to set the Realms alight with any new lore of consequence - at least in gaming products. Mind you, he did good work for LEoF it seems. Given the subject matter, it looks to be another MotM-type book. So in other words, little new lore for the old stagers and lots of adventures for DMs. I'll buy it anyway, but my expectations aren't all that high; just as they weren't for MotM.

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Jorkens
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Well, the title could point back to the changes of the recent times, with the weave in this case being that of society and order. On the other hand, the Cormyr books were quite a few years ago, so it could be an other shakeup of the country.

As I could need some more detailed information on Cormyr this could be interesting subject-wise, time will show I guess.
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Wooly Rupert
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You know, I'm going to wait until I know what this product is, before I form any opinions or expectations on it.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Aye, let's wait and see...it's projected for a 2007 release. We don't know how MotM has sold/will sell, so maybe there will be a full fledged regional sourcebook still in the works.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a good adventure series set in Cormyr, after all even despite the changes brought by Azoun's death, Cormyr is still Cormyr, a little less shiny maybe, but nonetheless.

We'll see

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As a 160 page hardcover, it might even be a novel, though I tend to doubt that.

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Skeptic
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Wasn't in Cormyr that the weave was the more damaged durint the ToT ?
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Ergdusch
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I guess I handle it like Wooly! why muse about something that we have no idea of what it may be.

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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  14:17:12  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

Wasn't in Cormyr that the weave was the more damaged durint the ToT ?


I believe damage was done to the Weave during the Time of Troubles and the rift was torn in the Weave in Tilverton during the Return of the Archwizards trilogy. So Cormier does have some history that would support this sort of title.


quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

I guess I handle it like Wooly! why muse about something that we have no idea of what it may be.



I just think it's fun to speculate. Obviously we can't pass judgement on it yet.
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Chyron
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 :  15:27:35  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

As a 160 page hardcover, it might even be a novel, though I tend to doubt that.




When I first read the title, I had thought it might be a novel as well...but with so many authors listed I was thinking it would have to be an anthology and a very short one at that.

Have the "The Helmlands" in the area of Castle Crag (FRA) ever been repaired by The Chosen? Or was the damage to the weave there beyond their control to restore?

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Archwizard
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Richard Baker replied on the WotC forums with more information on what this product is like. Here's what he had to say:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Baker

It's an adventure, and it uses a new format (not Mysteries of the Moonsea or any other format we've shown you before). More than that I cannot say right now.



Edited by - Archwizard on 01 Jul 2006 00:48:56
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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quote:
Originally posted by Archwizard

Richard Baker replied on the WotC forums with more information on what this product is like. Here's what he had to say:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Baker

It's an adventure, and it uses a new format (not Mysteries of the Moonsea or any other format we've shown you before). More than that I cannot say right now.






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I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?

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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



Agreed
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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



For 3/3.5e not counting Dungeon? This will be about the 5th or 6th. You got two preFRCS 3e ones. The Spider Queen one. The new Star Elf one. Rich's new one. And you could consider Mysteries that as well..... Course this doesn't count the mini adventures in the FRCS or Silver Marches nor the 1e/2e ones.

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I agree with Wooly and will not pass judgement yet. Although it does seem like an adventure book of some sort. I actually don't buy any of those. I am but a poor mage that buys only the books that I may create with.

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Dude I love it when I think of stuff before WotC does...

I've already toyed with the Weave in Cormyr big-time in my game, and I'm about to crack Tilverton open like an egg!

Maybe I ought to divert my players to Myth Drannor for awhile until this tome comes out. Looking forward to it!

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I am excited, too. I hope it includes info on Tilverton and how to incorporate what happened there into a campaign. I asked Ed about that place and he gave a few pointers on how to use it, but this is just wonderful.

Given the authors, I will give it a try. I thought LEoF had great storyline potentials, and while the other two have less FR background, I generally like their stuff.

Even if it is an adventure style book, it will probably have info that is more up to date on Cormyr than the older 2e books, especially with the changes after the Dragon, Shades returning, and the recent Final Gate politics having Cormyr with no sphere of influence within the Dales.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



For 3/3.5e not counting Dungeon? This will be about the 5th or 6th. You got two preFRCS 3e ones. The Spider Queen one. The new Star Elf one. Rich's new one. And you could consider Mysteries that as well..... Course this doesn't count the mini adventures in the FRCS or Silver Marches nor the 1e/2e ones.



And you think that is enough, Kuje?

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



For 3/3.5e not counting Dungeon? This will be about the 5th or 6th. You got two preFRCS 3e ones. The Spider Queen one. The new Star Elf one. Rich's new one. And you could consider Mysteries that as well..... Course this doesn't count the mini adventures in the FRCS or Silver Marches nor the 1e/2e ones.



And you think that is enough, Kuje?



It is for me. :) On top of the 10+ FR modules in Dungeon? Hells yeah. But then, I don't use premade modules that much.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



For 3/3.5e not counting Dungeon? This will be about the 5th or 6th. You got two preFRCS 3e ones. The Spider Queen one. The new Star Elf one. Rich's new one. And you could consider Mysteries that as well..... Course this doesn't count the mini adventures in the FRCS or Silver Marches nor the 1e/2e ones.



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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

I am VERY eager to get my hands on this one! Let's face the fact: how many "ready-to-run" adventure books/campaign arcs we have had in FR?



For 3/3.5e not counting Dungeon? This will be about the 5th or 6th. You got two preFRCS 3e ones. The Spider Queen one. The new Star Elf one. Rich's new one. And you could consider Mysteries that as well..... Course this doesn't count the mini adventures in the FRCS or Silver Marches nor the 1e/2e ones.



Don't forget Sons of Gruumsh.



Oh right, I knew I was forgetting one but I couldn't figure out what it was.

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Hello-

I remember reading (on the WotC site I think) a while back about a new format they were using for something they were running at GenCon. It basically put all the needed info on a single card (2-sided IIRC) including a map of the room. They claimed that when looking at how people play - they found people 'constantly' flipping through the books to find this-or-that relavant rule. The new format was supposed to put all the needed info on the card so lookup was not necessary. (*which was a boon for the event they were running that it was developed for.*)

I wonder if this 'new' format may be a book-version of this - obviously not being printed on cards. Depending on how much room the 'statblocks' may take up - this might be a good thing indeed, as *I* for one - being new to 3.5 (*and having some adjustment pains*) not having to flip all over the place would be a good piece of news for me!

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Any FR product, whatever the format, is a good FR product in my view. Because the alternative is NO FR products and I would hate for that dark day to come.

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