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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 00:46:56
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Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
Complaints about novels and sourcebooks are fine, insulting authors is not apporpriate in my opinion.
Very much agreed.
And yet...it is very rare that I see authors or designers actually being ripped on. Most of the time, people "behave" and just comment on the product--they do not say vicious things (or make assumptions) about the people who made the product. Alaundo mentioned that he and the moderators are the ones who see the "offensive" posts and get rid of them. I have to ask: are there really THAT many "offensive" posts that are being deleted that we never see?
I think it's worth repeating that most of the people here post in a civil manner. At least, that's how it seems to me. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 00:57:15
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Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2449 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:24:40
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Someone mentioned that they didn't want to post their honest opinions about novels because (essentially) being afraid that the mods would slap them down. I'd like to disagree. From what I've seen, mod presence is fairly light, with relatively few instances of posts being deleted or threads locked. I have, on occasion, posted some rather harsh things about some works, and haven't been warned, and my posts are still there. I don't feel any sort of discouragement to speak my mind.
Nor do I pull punches based on who's here and who's not. I rail against Denning's works because I think they are terrible (and I've unfortunately read almost all of them), not because Denning wrote them, or because he doesn't come here. If he had a thread of his own, I'd post in it. In the past year, the two works of fiction that have bugged me the most have been Bladesinger's Lesson and Final Gate, and I've been in the thick of the discussion, often aiming posts directly at the author (and getting responses). I think that's true of many here. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 04:54:27
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Chosen of Bane
Complaints about novels and sourcebooks are fine, insulting authors is not apporpriate in my opinion.
Very much agreed.
And yet...it is very rare that I see authors or designers actually being ripped on. Most of the time, people "behave" and just comment on the product--they do not say vicious things (or make assumptions) about the people who made the product. Alaundo mentioned that he and the moderators are the ones who see the "offensive" posts and get rid of them. I have to ask: are there really THAT many "offensive" posts that are being deleted that we never see?
I think it's worth repeating that most of the people here post in a civil manner. At least, that's how it seems to me.
I agree RF, at work we have a saying(and I am sure it is fairly common saying  ) 10 percent of the people, cause 90 percent of the work. IMO, correct the 10 percenters and just assure the rest that they are doing a fine job.
Additionally, I learned from much experience during my Army days, a mass correction does not have much of an effect, other than (potentially)alienting the ones that are doing right, and causing dissent among the troops.
I do however understand Alaundo's point. I am sure it was just an overall view or perception that he has seen recently, not an all encompassing, your all wrong and you had better shape up.
My mom always told me growing up that, if the shoe fits... wear it 
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Conlon
Learned Scribe
Canada
132 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 05:26:24
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
Of late, I have noticed a considerable level of negativity here at Candlekeep. Especially with a number of the latest releases from WotC, where scribes are constantly attacking elements of the products and novels. IMO, this has gone too far and gotten out of hand. Take a step back before posting and think how your post may affect other fans of the Realms and the general atmosphere of these forums.
We're all Forgotten Realms fans afterall and we should all be together happily discussing our beloved hobby. Some scribes simply aren't happy no matter what comes out of the FR stable... if you're this unhappy with WotC FR products and nothing pleases you anymore then isn't it simply time to move on to another system or setting? The authors and designers work extremely hard to produce tales and material to please us all, no easy task i'm sure, and we should praise them for their work.
Now, let's please try and be positive and ENJOY discussing the Realms between ourselves herein. We're all on the same side...remember?!
Kuje's Edit: I thought that this might deserved to be sticky'd for awhile. :)
I find the amount of discussion about this topic positively astounding. If you re-read Alaundo's post, he is merely pointing out that SOME scribes are ATTACKING elements of products. He goes on to request that people TRY to be positive and continue to enjoy discussing the Realms and the products.
I am quite sure that many of the people who have responded to this request took personal offence to it, though they have very likely never "crossed the line" themselves. Perhaps it is that they feel they have been lumped in with others who have crossed those lines and commited breaches to the code of conduct.
It is not unlike when police stop a person for a impaired driver program and the good, honest citizen gets his back up because he feels he is being scrutinized when he has done nothing wrong. If you don't feel that you have crossed the line, then Alaundo's message was not likely intended for you. Continue to do what you do and discuss, joke about, and critize (contructively - they way you would want to be criticized yourself) the products until you are blue in the face -  ! I just think that people should bear in mind that they are dealing with people. Most of us go to work every day and don't like it when we are put down or our efforts go unnoticed. Just because you aren't looking a person in the face when you pass along your criticisms doesn't mean that someone won't feel bad about it.
For the sake of all things holy, just try to be good, civil fans of the Forgotten Realms, a creation which I believe was designed to be an immersive, enjoyable setting for people to explore and get away from day-to-day troubles. If you already are a good, civil fan of the Realms, just keep on keepin' on!   |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 05:53:06
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Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Sanishiver
Senior Scribe
USA
476 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 07:56:41
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For years I’ve seen the worst the <shall not be named> forums had to offer RE: personal attacks on authors; confusing them with the subject matter, excuses made to attack authors/designers if they didn’t happen to “conform” to some random fan’s view of “How the Realms Should Be”, etc…
Candlekeep, by comparison, is vastly, vastly superior in terms of fan behavior and content. Yet I still see what Alaundo spoke of in his opening post from time to time; usually WRGT the Cosmology or in mischaracterizations of the 3E system as a whole and as it relates to the Realms proper.
It’s the constant “If subject X comes up then it’s another opportunity to drop in with standard issue negative opinions, even if with just a passing comment”, that I’m talking about. Mostly occurs because the subject is a sore issue with someone that just won’t let it drop.
This is why I think Candlekeep’s potential to be a vast resource for positive, Realms-Reinforcing discussions (on all levels, and about all editions of the game) is hugely curtailed because the strong opinions of many regulars (including mods) do in fact run this way.
I believe those negative comments –taken over time– dissuade new members from venturing into new subjects and from bringing up subjects that are ‘hot buttons’ for regulars, to the detriment of the community.
I believe these comments have put a “negativity cloud” (there’s got to be a better way to say that ;) ) over the Community.
What’s missing is a meta-view of the ‘live and let live’ approach.
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I’ve always wished that people would take a step back and realize that if they found some current book or novel to be disappointing, or found another piece of work by Author/Designer X to be dissatisfying, and remembered that they’d already happened to have said as much about Product X or Designer Y a zillion times before…well then maybe it is time for that person to rationally accept that the Realms in some way(s) just doesn’t do it for them anymore.
So maybe it is time for some folks to back off and find something else, or at the very minimum achieve some mature, adult level of acceptance that what WotC (or one or more of its employees/design teams) is producing will never truly satisfy…so it’s time to buck up and move on.
Simply focusing on what doesn’t satisfy, esp. over and over, doesn’t do anybody any good.
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09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description.
6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy.
9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.
Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 09:04:33
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Just a little sidenote here - even though I am a fairly new Candlekeep member, I have visited this side before that and I have always considered it to be a very fine and friendly environ, the reason I joined.
To the ongoing discussion I might say:
Of course there are posts that criticize, and criticism can be very helpful sometimes. On the other hand, some of these critics might have used words that were not constructive but unfriendly. It has been said to reflect one's comments on products/designers/fellow members opinions before replying, which does not mean that one is not allowed to express his opinion but should simply consider his words when doing so.
With that being said (more than once in this thread already), lets end this discussion right now and right here, cause as I see it THIS very thread is the one that is most contradictory to the mood of Canlekeep.
Thats all I have to add to this topic.
Sincerely, the fellow member Ergdusch |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
209 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 11:33:21
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Well...constructive criticism should be velcome to the writers of products...or no?
As for putting down autors for their contributions to FR, I say that if you do not like the product(as it has been put before), voice your opinion civilly. Nobody gains anything from verbal abuse.
On another note, I havent witnessed any of the kind in here, people in here are nice and (i think) the mood is good! =)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 02:17:38
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Originally posted by Conlon
I am quite sure that many of the people who have responded to this request took personal offence to it, though they have very likely never "crossed the line" themselves. Perhaps it is that they feel they have been lumped in with others who have crossed those lines and commited breaches to the code of conduct.
Not really--I responded the way I did because the "current mood at Candlekeep" is a topic that concerns me, as a forum member, not because I think I'm being scrutinized. Some people here know I talked extensively about the Last Mythal novels, made negative comments about them, and wondered in writing why so many people thought they were so great. Yet, no author or moderator ever "slapped me down for it", so I don't think I'm seen as a negative influence here.
However, if it is perceived that the level of negativity is excessive, and the forums become more heavily policed as a result, that WILL affect me and other posters here. Don't say this isn't my problem--Alaundo's post is a post for the general public to see--it wasn't a private message.
Lastly, notice how the original post only discusses how "scribes are constantly attacking elements of the products and novels"--it actually said nothing about attacking authors and designers. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that people were afraid the message was really saying "try not to express dislike of these products here--we're here to cheer on the authors, so if you don't have something nice to say, please remain silent and/or go elsewhere".
I know that's not what Alaundo meant, but it is really so surprising that some of us were worried? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 02:19:12
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Originally posted by scererar
I agree RF, at work we have a saying(and I am sure it is fairly common saying ) 10 percent of the people, cause 90 percent of the work. IMO, correct the 10 percenters and just assure the rest that they are doing a fine job.
Sounds true enough to me. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 03:02:32
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The "Mysteries of the Moonseas" format is just the latest WOTC policy to get my back up
It started with them cutting all the source books from 192 pages last year to 157 (I refuse to count the 3 pages of ads at the end of the book)
Was followed by them cutting the number of FR source books from 4 to 3
and finally weve seen them eliminate regional FR source books (The bread and butter of the setting) altogether and replace them with the totally inadequeat "Mysteries of the Moonsea" Format
compounding this a full 1/4 of the exstremely limited amount of Realmslore in MoM is out of date.
Needless to say I find myself hard pressed to find anything nice to say about WOTC!  |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 03:11:30
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Was followed by them cutting the number of FR source books from 3 to 4
The number was cut from 3 to 4? I'm a little confused, here. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 03:15:12
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Was followed by them cutting the number of FR source books from 3 to 4
The number was cut from 3 to 4? I'm a little confused, here.
He meant from 4 to 3... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 03:50:20
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Lastly, notice how the original post only discusses how "scribes are constantly attacking elements of the products and novels"--it actually said nothing about attacking authors and designers. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that people were afraid the message was really saying "try not to express dislike of these products here--we're here to cheer on the authors, so if you don't have something nice to say, please remain silent and/or go elsewhere".
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed how the original post is now being spun. |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
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552 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 04:05:27
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Lastly, notice how the original post only discusses how "scribes are constantly attacking elements of the products and novels"--it actually said nothing about attacking authors and designers. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that people were afraid the message was really saying "try not to express dislike of these products here--we're here to cheer on the authors, so if you don't have something nice to say, please remain silent and/or go elsewhere".
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed how the original post is now being spun.
Well, that's a good point and to be honest, by the time I posted I forgot the actually original quote and figured Big Al's intent was to prevent author bashing.
If Big Al actually meant what he said and doesn't want people criticizing "elements of the products and novels", than I agree it is wrong. Nobody should be forced to applaud something they dislike. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 04:07:24
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Just wanted to point this out. In three days we have managed to post three pages worth of comments about how we all want the right to keep complaining. Irony.
Also, I think part of Alaundo's frustration is the fact that so few of our regular posters have come up with anything positive about the Realms in a long time. I'm not saying we should all say things are great and we love them if we don't, but its not even like there are any comments looking forward to some new product coming out, or anything like that. No wish lists, nothing. Just complaints.
Jorkens has been posting some really interesting original stuff. We have some talented Realms fans here, and at one time I can remember people discussing their campaigns, their characters, and things like that. Now we seem to trip over ourselves just to complain about the next thing that comes out.
The other thing that is sad about all of this is that Alaundo mentions that he is concerned about something, not just as the site Administrator, but as a Realms fan and a person that frequents the boards. He never said he was going to start banning people if they didn't have the right "positive quotient" in their posts. He just said he was concerned and wondered why some people are still following the Realms if they take no joy in the setting. Its a valid question, and yet the responses are that he shouldn't be telling people on his own site how to react.
I posted a link to a page on Amazon that shows that there will be a Cormyr book out next year, when all of last year we were all saying we wanted one, and when its posted, the first few comments are immediately assuming the worst about the book. Even if its in the same format as MotM and you didn't like it, its not even the same authors, but yet, it gets eyed dubiously.
And what is the point of posting relatively short responses just to be able to groan and grumble?
I'm just frustrated. Honestly, you guys are all great, and I have had great discussions with all of you in the past, and hope to in the future, but seriously, when something positive comes out, we don't get three pages in three days talking about how people can use it in their campaing or how WELL it fits into their campaigns. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 04:26:26
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'm not saying we should all say things are great and we love them if we don't, but its not even like there are any comments looking forward to some new product coming out, or anything like that. No wish lists, nothing. Just complaints.
You sure about that? That's quite a strong statement to make, there...and not exactly one that can be easily backed up with solid facts.
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Now we seem to trip over ourselves just to complain about the next thing that comes out.
Speak for yourself.
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He just said he was concerned and wondered why some people are still following the Realms if they take no joy in the setting.
Who is to be the judge of who takes joy in the setting and who doesn't? Unless someone specifically states, "I don't like this setting anymore", how on Earth do you know?
One of the first things I asked was the names of a few people, or just one person, who is still posting here even though they undeniably dislike--or are uninterested in--the Realms. I got no response.
In other words...I think people are seeing a problem where there is none. So, who are you to say I'm the one who likes to complain?
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I posted a link to a page on Amazon that shows that there will be a Cormyr book out next year, when all of last year we were all saying we wanted one, and when its posted, the first few comments are immediately assuming the worst about the book.
Not my comment--I was more worried about Cormyr itself--as a place. My comment was actually pretty neutral. If you assumed the worst, I'm sorry to say that's your problem, not mine.
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I'm just frustrated. Honestly, you guys are all great, and I have had great discussions with all of you in the past, and hope to in the future, but seriously, when something positive comes out, we don't get three pages in three days talking about how people can use it in their campaing or how WELL it fits into their campaigns.
I'm not specifically in a campaign, so I can't comment about things like that.
I am reading the novels, however, and making up characters, so I can talk about that. I've commented a little on Lost Library of Cormanthyr, so there you go. I said that I've mostly been enjoying it (did you miss that, too?). Right now I'm just taking my time to finish the book up--I'll post more when I'm done. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 30 Jun 2006 04:29:36 |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
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1103 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 05:11:59
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| I do not play in the world itself. So all I read are the sourcebooks and the occasional novel. So, that's what I comment on. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Swordsage
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 05:57:38
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I posted a link to a page on Amazon that shows that there will be a Cormyr book out next year, when all of last year we were all saying we wanted one, and when its posted, the first few comments are immediately assuming the worst about the book. Even if its in the same format as MotM and you didn't like it, its not even the same authors, but yet, it gets eyed dubiously.
You did? Where?
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Winterfox
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 07:20:49
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Also, I think part of Alaundo's frustration is the fact that so few of our regular posters have come up with anything positive about the Realms in a long time. I'm not saying we should all say things are great and we love them if we don't, but its not even like there are any comments looking forward to some new product coming out, or anything like that. No wish lists, nothing. Just complaints.
Well, since I'm not interested one bit in sourcebooks and haven't read threads concerning those, I wouldn't know what's said in such threads, but I'd like to ask you: is it the products, WotC's behavioral patterns, or the posters? If there's a string of products that have disappointed people, it's hardly unexpected that it would engender pessimism. This is like going, "Oh, hey, company X has been putting out a couple of unfinished and buggy games, but I'm sure their third will be just perfect."
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Its a valid question, and yet the responses are that he shouldn't be telling people on his own site how to react.
Funny you should add "on his own site." Sure, the Candlekeep forum's private property, and I'm not going to stupidly clamour "Zomg freedom of speech biatch!11!" -- it's up to Alaundo to run it however he likes, and if he wants to turn the place into a bastion of happy happy joy joy where criticism is forbidden, that's up to him. But as he's made clear in a previous post, that's not how he wants to do things. |
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Helo
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 19:18:22
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The other thing that is sad about all of this is that Alaundo mentions that he is concerned about something, not just as the site Administrator, but as a Realms fan and a person that frequents the boards. He never said he was going to start banning people if they didn't have the right "positive quotient" in their posts.
Well that may not be entirely true. This is SiriusBlack and my account all of a sudden won't work. I get the following error message:
"the UserName or the E-mail Address you entered does not exist in the database"
So, I wonder if I've been banned without any warning, any email from any moderator, private message, etc.
How interesting if so although perhaps it's just a technical problem. Strange if it is a technical problem as it let me register this new account quite easily. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 19:19:56
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Originally posted by Helo
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
The other thing that is sad about all of this is that Alaundo mentions that he is concerned about something, not just as the site Administrator, but as a Realms fan and a person that frequents the boards. He never said he was going to start banning people if they didn't have the right "positive quotient" in their posts.
Well that may not be entirely true. This is SiriusBlack and my account all of a sudden won't work. I get the following error message:
"the UserName or the E-mail Address you entered does not exist in the database"
So, I wonder if I've been banned without any warning, any email from any moderator, private message, etc.
How interesting if so although perhaps it's just a technical problem. Strange if it is a technical problem as it let me register this new account quite easily.
That's news to me man, if Alaundo, or the other mods, decided that, I wasn't included in the discussion. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Helo
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 19:22:51
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Thank you for replying and letting me know that you have no knowledge of any action.
I hope it's just a technical error although as I said there is no problem when I create a new account. But, whenever I try to log in under my old one, or even just click on the forget password, I'm given that error message.
Thanks again Kuje.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 19:28:42
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Originally posted by Helo
Thank you for replying and letting me know that you have no knowledge of any action.
I hope it's just a technical error although as I said there is no problem when I create a new account. But, whenever I try to log in under my old one, or even just click on the forget password, I'm given that error message.
Thanks again Kuje.
No problem and I can send a PM to Alaundo if you haven't done so alrdy about it... I'm really surprised about this as much as you are. |
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Helo
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 19:34:23
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Originally posted by Kuje
No problem and I can send a PM to Alaundo if you haven't done so alrdy about it... I'm really surprised about this as much as you are.
If you wish go ahead and PM Alaundo. I just got a PM from someone banned in the past pretty much stating that what I'm experiencing means I've been banned.
Yes, I'm surprised as well if this is what has taken place. The hypocrisy of the action is just amazing to me.
Thanks again Kuje and take care of yourself. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 20:19:53
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Originally posted by Helo
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Originally posted by Kuje
No problem and I can send a PM to Alaundo if you haven't done so alrdy about it... I'm really surprised about this as much as you are.
If you wish go ahead and PM Alaundo. I just got a PM from someone banned in the past pretty much stating that what I'm experiencing means I've been banned.
Yes, I'm surprised as well if this is what has taken place. The hypocrisy of the action is just amazing to me.
Thanks again Kuje and take care of yourself.
I'd be surprised to find it was anything other than a technical glitch. I can quite honestly say that I have seen no recent discussions about banning anyone. |
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Helo
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 20:20:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd be surprised to find it was anything other than a technical glitch. I can quite honestly say that I have seen no recent discussions about banning anyone.
So how many other users have reported this technical glitch? Or am I the only one?
I hope you are right WR.
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Arkhaedun
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 20:25:31
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| I know nothing about this either, and on top of this, none of us could ban anyone. Likely its just a technical glitch. Best bet will be to get ahold of Alaundo. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 00:36:49
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| Sorry to hear about this problem, SB. |
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