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Chyron
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Posted - 22 Jun 2006 :  05:52:13  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have been buying up some older 2e stuff recently...and I was looking aver the Bibliography of the Realms here on Candlekeep as sort of a buyers guide...

I noticed that the Al-Qadim products (Boxed sets, accessories and 1 videogame I think) were not listed. Yet the FAQ here at Candlekeep lists Zakara as a part of Toril along with Maztica, Kara-Tur, etc...

Is there a specific reason for the omission from the Candlekeep bibliography?

Just My Thoughts
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Edited by - Chyron on 22 Jun 2006 05:53:36

Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 Jun 2006 :  06:37:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe the omission happened because, while Zakhara is a part of Toril, it is not a part of the Realms -- the Realms do not encompass all of Toril; it's mostly Faerūn that comprises the Realms.

And all the Al-Qadim stuff was sold under its own imprint -- the Kara-Tur stuff was sold with the FR imprint. So even though Kara-Tur isn't part of Faerūn, it had the imprint and thus made the list.

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 22 Jun 2006 06:37:53
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Chyron
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Posted - 22 Jun 2006 :  07:43:03  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah....I see the reasoning now, thanks Wooly.

Of course this begs the question....

Does that make Zakhara...The Realm that No-one Forgot or perhaps The Forgettable Realm

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Edited by - Chyron on 22 Jun 2006 07:45:07
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Kajehase
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Posted - 22 Jun 2006 :  08:30:19  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nah, it makes it "The Truly Lost and Forgotten Realm that Shall Not Be Named."

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Kajehase
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Posted - 22 Jun 2006 :  08:31:58  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
(And as an aside, when I have some spare time I'm working (incredibly slow) on making a list of Player's Guide to Faerūn-style list of regions for Zakhara.)

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Alaundo
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 :  07:46:28  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I believe the omission happened because, while Zakhara is a part of Toril, it is not a part of the Realms -- the Realms do not encompass all of Toril; it's mostly Faerūn that comprises the Realms.

And all the Al-Qadim stuff was sold under its own imprint -- the Kara-Tur stuff was sold with the FR imprint. So even though Kara-Tur isn't part of Faerūn, it had the imprint and thus made the list.



Well met

Indeed, the Wooly one is correct. I have intended to have a small section here at Candlekeep to list all Al-Qadim material, just for completeness.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 :  11:25:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In the meantime, I would direct any interested parties to the Al-Qadim section of the TSR Archive (which also has a great list of FR stuff published by TSR).

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EvilKnight
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Posted - 24 Jun 2006 :  00:15:09  Show Profile  Visit EvilKnight's Homepage Send EvilKnight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I liked the Al-Qadim setting. Played my first character from it at a convention. A tall husky female harem guard...

BTW: I believe that I have all the Al-Qadim supplements if you have any general questions about them.

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Kuje
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Posted - 24 Jun 2006 :  05:16:54  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Note: I've been making npc's for that part of the world, but only one per other nonFaerun continent per article, in my Laborers articles for the Compendium. :) I to have all the Zakhara/Maztica/Kara-tur material. :)

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latharast
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Posted - 13 Jan 2008 :  15:40:31  Show Profile  Visit latharast's Homepage Send latharast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey
I'd believe I have noticed some inconsistency while I've been checking Zakhara's maps. On the main map (one with Al-Qadim logo) city Qudra lies in the estuary of some indescribed river (that river should not be far from islands Dahab and Lahib). There are shown two rivers in this area (second has got two tributeries, and a little gulf). However, on the map which enlarges e.g. High Desert and Sea of Caravans, mentioned river does not exist, and Qudra lies in the estuary of second river. Which map show right situation of Qudra city? - that's my obvious question. I suppose it's the map which enlarges High Desert (it is more precise). I'm asking this, a bit silly, question, cause I'm going to start a little campaign in this region, and I want to be sure about few things.

EDIT: Thanks. BTW - nice gallery ;)

Edited by - latharast on 14 Jan 2008 20:04:19
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Markustay
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This should be the most accurate placement -

http://markustay.deviantart.com/art/Part-of-Zakhara-74592087

Note - this is from FRIA, and I have found some inconsistencies with those maps, mostly spelling errors.

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Big Mac
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 :  19:28:12  Show Profile  Visit Big Mac's Homepage Send Big Mac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you like Al-Qadim, you might be interested in the Al-Qadim links I've got (see my footer). There are two free downloads on the WotC website (Caravans and Corsairs of the Great Sea) and I've got a link to Al-Qadim.com, which is a website doing 3rd edition conversions of things from the Land of Fate. If you like WotC mailings lists, then I've also got a link to the fairly hard to find Al Qadim mailing list (AQML).

I'll put up any other Al Qadim websites, when I find out about them.

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Aaron Highcolor
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Posted - 26 May 2008 :  15:30:31  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Highcolor's Homepage Send Aaron Highcolor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I LOVED the Al-Qadim setting. Kinda wished they would have brought it back in the 3/3.5 edition, but maybe now in 4th! It is the Arabian Knights over-the-top type of action that 4th Edition is.
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