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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 00:06:30
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Originally posted by Krafus
Pharaun Mizzrym.
I'll never forgive Paul Kemp for killing him.
Considering that the entire series was planned before it was written, I'm doubting that it was Paul's decision to kill Pharaun. |
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 02:28:05
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Krafus
Pharaun Mizzrym.
I'll never forgive Paul Kemp for killing him.
Considering that the entire series was planned before it was written, I'm doubting that it was Paul's decision to kill Pharaun.
Actually, Mr. Kemp himself has said, on this very message board, that the decision to kill Pharaun was his. It was, IIRC, on a big thread about Resurrection when it came out in hardcover. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 02:47:22
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| Eh, I think Pharaun deserved to die, when you get right down to it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 02:59:14
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| I stand corrected. I've avoided those threads, since I'm working my way thru the trilogy for the first time. I'm about halfway thru book 5, right now. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 03:00:58
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| Wooly, is that trilogy in the Douglas Adams sense of the word? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 03:04:14
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I really enjoyed Walker, although he only appeared just recently...
aside from that...unfortunately I haven't read that many old books yet, but I'd like to know what happened to that ranger from the Twilight Giant trilogy, well both rangers, Avner and the other dude
Have you read the Crucible yet? You may find out a bit more about Avner therein . . . |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 03:05:19
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| As far as characters I'd like to see . . . pretty much anyone and everyone from the Realms Master crew . . . |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 09:21:18
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Originally posted by Krafus
Pharaun Mizzrym.
I'll never forgive Paul Kemp for killing him.
You get my full support on that. Shame! Shame! Shame! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 11:01:53
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
As far as characters I'd like to see . . . pretty much anyone and everyone from the Realms Master crew . . .
I liked most of the characters from both DC/TSR comics that were set in the Realms... I'd certainly be happy to see a novel with any of them!
But yeah, it would be nice to see Dwalimar and crew in action again... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 01:35:02
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What's the Realms Master crew?  |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 03:45:14
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
What's the Realms Master crew?
The crew of the Realms Master, of course. 
The Realms Master was a ship captained by the Halruaan wizard Dwalimar Omen. Using an artifact called the Astrolabe of Nimbral, he teleported the ship around the Realms, hunting dangerous magical artifacts so that he could take them out of circulation. His crew consisted of:
Foxilon Cardluck, a halfling thief from Luiren
Minder, an iron golem that contained the soul of a deceased dwarven adventuring companion
Vartan Hai Sylvar, an arrogant (and clueless) gold elf cleric of Labelas Enoreth
Priam Agrivar, a once-fallen human paladin that had redeemed himself
and Ishi Barasume, a warrior-woman from Kozakura
Their adventures were chronicled in the DC/TSR comic book title Forgotten Realms. They were later detailed in Dragon, which also had a short story or two about them, and Dwalimar, the Realms Master, and the Astrolabe of Nimbral were all mentioned in the 3E Shining South.
This comic also had the first appearance of Jasmine, the winged girl who wound up in the Spelljammer comic book, only to return to the Realms in the novel Finder's Bane. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 03:58:52
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| Vartan is mentioned also in Demihuman Deities and he was Labelas's avatar in the Time of Troubles and he was Labelas's Proxy for a time but he's still Labelas's Chosen. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 04:29:23
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That's really neat stuff! Thanks for the information, guys.  |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 02:34:52
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I greatly enjoyed the characters (if not the writing) in War in Tethyr. I would like to see more of them. More Jack Ravenwild would also be good. I also would like to see "the silver raven" (I forget his name right now) as the focus of a book.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 03:58:50
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Originally posted by lowtech
I also would like to see "the silver raven" (I forget his name right now) as the focus of a book.
Ick, no (I know of whom you are talking about). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 16 Jul 2006 03:59:04 |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 05:11:35
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| Easy...Arilyn... wait Elaine's already on that. Ok.. how about the Ranger Three or Alias. :) |
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mavericace
Seeker
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 07:20:10
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| I noticed that several people have listed Alias and Dragonbait i would like to see another book about Giogi Wyvernspur or the rebel bard Joel as well. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 18:49:49
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Originally posted by mavericace
I noticed that several people have listed Alias and Dragonbait i would like to see another book about Giogi Wyvernspur or the rebel bard Joel as well.
Giogi has had a few small appearances in several novels, the last being elminster's Daughter, but a novel more dedicated to this character would be cool. |
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Ignorance Personified
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:11:09
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I second (third?) Jack Ravenwild.
I also third Alias and Dragonbait-even though I am currently in the middle of Azure Bonds.
In addition:
Valas and Ryld Argith (WotSQ)
Drasek Riven (Erevis Cale Trilogy)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:41:16
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Originally posted by scererar
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Originally posted by mavericace
I noticed that several people have listed Alias and Dragonbait i would like to see another book about Giogi Wyvernspur or the rebel bard Joel as well.
Giogi has had a few small appearances in several novels, the last being elminster's Daughter, but a novel more dedicated to this character would be cool.
Speaking of Elminster's Daughter, I wouldn't mind seeing Narnra Shalace again. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 04:54:48
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Tzigone would be much fun.
But Artus Cimber and the cheesy talking wombats must DIE! DIE! DIE! |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 05:03:37
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Hey, no bad-talking of Wombats, these two characters deserve a trilogy of their own! The search for the Pouch, where they travel across Faerun in search of signs form the gods about the location of the Wombat gods. Get a lowdown perspective on how the hairy ones dig the lands we all know so well! How to survive on four legs and without any magic? Find out in the wombats Journal entries.
Sorry, to early, to little coffee. In all seriousness these were probably the only comic relief characters I have enjoyed in FR fiction. Then again, I am a sucker for talking animals. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 05:07:06
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Originally posted by msatran
But Artus Cimber and the cheesy talking wombats must DIE! DIE! DIE!
I thought those wombats were cute... |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 05:46:28
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| Yes cool character, no pun intended and I forgot all about the wombats. |
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msatran
Learned Scribe
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 06:02:10
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| The problem is, that the wombats completely killed the deadly jungle feel of one of those novels. I could never take the books seriously after that. Those novels should have read like H. Rider Haggard, or Joseph Conrad, and instead, they read like Doc Savage on LSD. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 06:21:20
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Originaly posted by Msatran
The problem is, that the wombats completely killed the deadly jungle feel of one of those novels. I could never take the books seriously after that. Those novels should have read like H. Rider Haggard, or Joseph Conrad, and instead, they read like Doc Savage on LSD.
That actually makes the books sound more interesting than it really was. Seriously though, the one thing I didnt like about this book was that it felt to much like a realms version of a Haggard story. I like the book, but there is something about it that seems a little to contrived to me. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 14:09:34
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| I'd like to see more of a minor character, goes by the name of Vrakk, he was the orc general on Azoun's crusade and he had another appearance in Prince of Lies...what I saw of him I liked a lot! |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 16:27:43
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Originally posted by Sadonayerah Odrydin
I'd love to read another short story or novel featuring Jander Sunstar!! I hated how they left us hanging at the end of Vampire of the Mists! *growls* (I'll leave out the spoiler for those who still want to read it).
They need to bring him back into more stories! Though I guess that might be difficult writing about a vampire. There's only so many plots one can think of right?
in the Ravenloft accessory Champions of the Mists Jander is discussed post-Vampire of the Mists
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 20:08:56
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I'd like to see more of a minor character, goes by the name of Vrakk, he was the orc general on Azoun's crusade and he had another appearance in Prince of Lies...what I saw of him I liked a lot!
I'm with you on that one Mace! I've mentioned Commander\General Vrakk before on these forums. He's a great character and I took to him straight away. He DOES appear in another book also (hence his promotion from Commander to General). |
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