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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  20:23:23  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I was thinking about starting up a project to make a few books for in game use with realms lore, Faerun history, and spell research items in them, etc. Not large books of course but just like 4 to 10 page booklets that characters will find. Now here is the question. Does any one have anything I could use to make these books? Or has some one already done something like this? If so I would be interested in advice and or materials that other people have already put together. I am also open to books that were made just for this purpose by WotC or Candlekeep.

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Kaladorm
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  22:40:47  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can make old 'pamphlets' with a few tea stained pages of a5/a6 paper, then get a thick thread and sew it all roughly together (yarn would do if you have a needle big enough, singe and fray the ends for added authenticity )
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  23:39:09  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good stuff. I shall try my hand at book making then! Now I have found some decent info on Candlekeep of course to use as some of the text for the first books. I basically am aiming to inform my players better of FR lore. They are lazy so I must help them along in their reading.

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  01:24:45  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you considered Volo's Guide-styled tomes and/or chapbooks for this?

A little from Ed -

"Re. the list commentary on Volo's Guides:
What you the gamer buy is an our-world compilation (that's where Elminster's comments come in...I, Ed of the Greenwood, make them into footnotes) of "chapbooks" published by Volo, and sold in the streets of Waterdeep and in shops of cities and trade-route settlements (Bargewright Inn, for example) throughout the Heartlands.
The chapbooks are several sheets of paper folded in half, and held together with two knots of waxed thread sewn through the folds...making them like very thin, poor-paper versions of the old D&D booklets. One would have to buy about forty of these (in numbered sets, published one a tenday like Dickens, when he was sold outside the pages of Strand Magazine) to assemble a single "Volo's Guide." The maps would be extra, and never in color. Us modern types get such perks.
Price of a single chapbook? Depends on scarcity, demand, location, and condition. For new but fairly scarce, say 1 sp, and go up or down from there.... "

And from me...

I would imagine that, like Franklin's Poor Richard's Almanack in the American colonies, chapbooks in the Realms range far and wide across entire areas of Faerun, collecting common tales, curious facts about places, tidbits of Realmslore, astrological data, and other pieces of information.

Chapbooks in the Relams would serve to generate a local interest in the wider community. They work to share stories and lore with outsiders, and help locals to learn about what a place and people are like outside their city walls.

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Edited by - The Sage on 15 May 2006 01:25:34
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BlackAce
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  03:37:20  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guees it depends on what sort of information you wish to convey to your players. I've gotten quite good mileage out of copying out the bitesize chunks of realmslore found in various in-game books in Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights.

Combined with adding local bits of news and public notices, I found them brilliant for introducing new players to realms lore and giving even veteran realmsians an excuse to pick them up.

It's a real buzz to see one of your player's sit back, immersed in a scroll of the Waterdhavian Herald.

*Sigh* If only I had time to make more.
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Kaladorm
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  08:39:59  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We've started to take a more 'in game' approach to information now. Even though we have a copy of Volos Guide to the Dalelands sitting around, one of our characters actually purchased a copy from Dagger Falls recently.

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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  15:43:20  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know I do have two of the Volo Guidebooks. It would be easy just to copy a few pages and like Sage referenced make small booklets of paper connected by two pieces of thread. Hmmmm, am also aware of the Waterdavian Herald. That is an invaluable source of info. Tell me. Does every one else have a hard time not running down every story they come by in the realms while gaming? What a fantastic world. Now I just need to target these booklets I make towards informing the players of in game relevant topics. Ah heck, I throw in some cool lore too. Thanks for the help guys.

Illum
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Thrasymachus
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Posted - 18 May 2006 :  15:52:26  Show Profile Send Thrasymachus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I made use of these downloads from wizards for a party that were lore scavangers.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
Select some text, and print it out for them on their trips to Candlekeep, or visits to sages, or books found in the bottom of crypts.

Part of the beauty of it is that since the Realms has progressed this material became moderatly outdated, but it's easy to plunk down as the "Library of a sage who died recently." Just be wary of (or relish) all the red herrings it can produce.


Former Forgotten Realms brand manager Jim Butler: "Everything that bears the Forgotten Realms logo is considered canon".

Edited by - Thrasymachus on 18 May 2006 15:53:15
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 18 May 2006 :  18:14:23  Show Profile  Visit Wandering_mage's Homepage Send Wandering_mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks friend. I think you have a great idea and it will be used.

Illum
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