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Kaladorm
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Posted - 01 May 2006 :  23:24:13  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Apologies if this topic has already been covered, a search and a look through Kuje's index file didn't yield much

Can anyone tell me where the 'impregnable' (as described in FRCS) magical defenses of Evermeet are described?

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Kuje
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Posted - 01 May 2006 :  23:52:25  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Elves of Evermeet sourcebook and some are used in the Evermeet novel. :)

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  00:35:06  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also check out the Druidhome Trilogy. The elves are not very kind to unwelcome visitors.

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silverpriestess
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  01:56:15  Show Profile  Visit silverpriestess's Homepage Send silverpriestess a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't it help if someone describe a bit about Evermeet's so called "impenetrable" defenses from the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook and the Druidholme trilogy? Honestly, many members here as well as myself lacked access to these rare materials.

Evemreet novel I had read and it merely gave a vague impression of the defenses of the island kingdom.
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The Sage
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  02:10:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed also touches (very briefly) on the defenses of Evermeet in his '04 and '05 replies.

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Kuje
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  02:21:31  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by silverpriestess

Wouldn't it help if someone describe a bit about Evermeet's so called "impenetrable" defenses from the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook and the Druidholme trilogy? Honestly, many members here as well as myself lacked access to these rare materials.

Evemreet novel I had read and it merely gave a vague impression of the defenses of the island kingdom.



Well the sourcebook is available for 5 bucks as a pdf from paizo or rpgnow.com. I'm sorry that we don't post text from sourcebooks for everyone to reference.

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The Sage
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  02:30:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Besides... there's a limit to how much can be quoted from FR sources on a public message board. See the Forum Code of Conduct.

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Wandering_mage
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I think the lack of materials is one of the reasons people gather at Candlekeep. This is where the lore is. Sadly I understand why people don't just write up all the requested info. One, it would be very time consuming. Two, the code of conduct issue. And three because this is yet another defense of Evermeet. I couldn't help myself.

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Kentinal
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Well we know, that the defenses did not fully work in any event, should one have read the sequel.

The warships, the liches, the Elven plate, the airforce, the storm shields and other defennses did prevent an invasion. At best all that can be said the defenses were able to prevent a total defeat and overrun of the Island by the invaders.

As others have noted, there is always a conflict with fair use and providing text of copyright material. To learm more about defenses of Evermeet, one needs to search discussions about such defenses. One can not ask and expect to recieve text with any great chance of such a reply being posted. This because the site itself and the poster could be subjected to criminal and/or civil penalities.

There have been for example discussion about the Elven fleet, that some quoted text was used. There has been discussion about Elven Plate, as well as Elven liches. There are bits and pieces to be found out about Evermeet, and I suspect a dedicated search could even rebuild the entire text of a book quoted under "fair use" doctime.

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Edited by - Kentinal on 02 May 2006 03:28:15
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Kaladorm
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  14:35:46  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps it's just me then but I find Candlekeep search tool to be quite clumsy, probably why my search didn't turn up any results.

I appreciate the references to the texts and I'll try and get hold of a copy of them in due course.

In the mean time I'd be grateful if someone could briefly describe to me the part of the defenses (if any) which protect against divinations
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Kentinal
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  15:27:02  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can not find or recall any direct protection from divinations, however the Island is protected by powerful illustions, that make it very hard for non elves to see though. All that normally would be seen is water, thus nothing to divine about the island or people living there. The illusions are either of Divine nature or Elven High Magic, which in 3.X clearly would translate to be Epic spells. A high level character might be able to piece the illustions and gather information. I am not sure what is high enough level to even have a remote chance to succede in divinations concerning the island.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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