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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 29 Apr 2006 : 23:02:30
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Not only has Erik Mona said that he would like to get more articles for the Forgotten Realms published in Dragon, but he apparently has expressed a desire to get more Forgotten Realms adventures published in Dungeon, perhaps one a quarter.
I posted a thread discussing what I think would make for some good themes and tie ins that would get some attention for Forgotten Realms adventuers here:
Clicky!
If any of my fellow scribes have ever wanted to get published, now might be the time to try and buckle down and write that great adventure, as Erik Mona seems to really be looking for quality FR content.
Mod edit: 'Twas a big ol' link, and was stretching out the page. I corrected that. 
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 01:08:05
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While I'd love to seize this opportunity... writing adventures means knowing the rules well enough to properly create something that people (other than my own gaming group) would be familiar with. I'm neither confident nor proficient enough with the 3.5e D&D rules to try something on a scale like this.
Now background material OTOH, and basic Realmslore for the adventure itself... that's something I'd love to work on. But I don't think Paizo or the editors of DUNGEON will accept just the "written" side of an 3e FR adventure article.
-- Aside from all of that, this is good to hear though. I don't prurchase DUNGEON frequently, but I've been relatively happy with the few FR adventures I've read through in the more recent issues.
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 01:19:03
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The idea is a good one KEJ, but I see the same problems as Eric L Boyd, to tie in with a specific event you have to be in-the-know, otherwise you'll have a very tough time writing about it. I could, however, imagine that, since novels aren't released on a one month basis and it takes roughly 2 years maybe 1.5 to release an entire trilogy, you could submit a sideline adventure during that time. When a series is finished the interest wanes.
As Sage said, I'm not that familiar yet with 3.5, so I doubt I'd be able to write anything Dungeon might accept. Plus, I wing far too much as a DM to worry about every snippet of a rule.
Still, if Dungeon would go and focus one or two issues a year on the Realms I'd be inclined to buy them. |
Mace's not so gentle gamer's journal My rants were harmless compared to this, beware! |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 03:05:37
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| Thanks for tweaking the link Wooly! |
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 03:35:00
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| Part of me would love to consider it, but if Dungeon doesn't publish a short FR adventure I write, it's unlikely to find purchase elsewhere due to copyright issues. This deters me because I am wary of writing anything without a guarantee of publication at this point. That's why I am more likely to write something generic that can be shopped around. |
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Guennarr
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 14:14:34
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Hhhhm... reading this thread: isn't there a way to combine both sides?
On the one hand Candlekeep and its denizens are a treasure trove of realms lore.
On the other hand sites like enworld and the Paizo boards attract very rule firm readers.
So what about someone from this site formulating an adventure - story line, encounter descriptions, rough encounter levels, participating organizations/ creatures etc.
And someone from the other mentioned sites, someone who is really into 3.5 stats could work out the numbers...
Who would volunteer here?
And which Dungeon reader?
Just my two cents,
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 14:27:39
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Problem with that would probably be trust, in the first instance. I certainly wouldn't entrust something I wrote to some unknown person. Who is to say my idea isn't stolen once I send the script of events/storyline/encounters to the possible co-writer?
The net is a very anonymous entity, how could one ensure that agreements are kept?
That's the major problem I'd have with something like that. |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 15:46:09
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Talking about Dungeon FR adventure..
What do you think about the second last one, Twisted Run (PCs of level 17) ?
For myself it's a complete failure, it has all the major error that an high-level adventure can have, for exemple :
-Blocking scrying/buff/teleport with deux ex machina.
-The BBEG survival is based on his magical equipement (iouns stones to block spells, because no SR and Will +8 !)
-Blocking summoning with same deux ex machina (Malar's influence)
-Lots of encounter with low CR creatures boosted with class levels to make them a good challenge.
But the worst part of it is that the author decided that it was not interesting to create this legandary Twisted Run dungeon after all so all he says about it is :
"Fake some tunnels that twists around, and after a few minutes, the PCs are in the BBEG room" ! 
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 18:43:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Guennarr
Hhhhm... reading this thread: isn't there a way to combine both sides?
On the one hand Candlekeep and its denizens are a treasure trove of realms lore.
On the other hand sites like enworld and the Paizo boards attract very rule firm readers.
So what about someone from this site formulating an adventure - story line, encounter descriptions, rough encounter levels, participating organizations/ creatures etc.
And someone from the other mentioned sites, someone who is really into 3.5 stats could work out the numbers...
Who would volunteer here?
And which Dungeon reader?
Just my two cents,
Günther
I'm working on this exact thing with another poster, who doesn't post here, and we hope to get some articles co-written but it's on hold at the moment since it's finals week for him at college. :)
And if anyone needs to know, since I asked Erik Mona, they do accept co-written articles but you and the co-author has to decide on how you want to split the payment. I have Erik's email if anyone wants what he said to me. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 18:47:16
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
Problem with that would probably be trust, in the first instance. I certainly wouldn't entrust something I wrote to some unknown person. Who is to say my idea isn't stolen once I send the script of events/storyline/encounters to the possible co-writer?
The net is a very anonymous entity, how could one ensure that agreements are kept?
That's the major problem I'd have with something like that.
All I can say to you about this, is find someone who you think you can trust. I dunno, there's a handful of people, or more, that I could name who I think would never do this. At least I'd hope they wouldn't and if you and the co-author agreed to sell the article to paizo and have signed the release form, then paizo would be the one who could come down hard on the person who released the article on the net.
BTW, publishing an article on the net is the same as publishing it elsewhere, according to the writers magazines I read. Which is why I would never try to sell my articles that I let Alaundo use for the Compendium to someone else. It's not ethical and I gave those to him for use for this sight and taking them back and getting paid for them, is just.... wrong. Course that's my opinion and standards. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2006 : 00:58:59
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Originally posted by Skeptic
Talking about Dungeon FR adventure..
What do you think about the second last one, Twisted Run (PCs of level 17) ?
For myself it's a complete failure, it has all the major error that an high-level adventure can have, for exemple :
-Blocking scrying/buff/teleport with deux ex machina.
-The BBEG survival is based on his magical equipement (iouns stones to block spells, because no SR and Will +8 !)
-Blocking summoning with same deux ex machina (Malar's influence)
-Lots of encounter with low CR creatures boosted with class levels to make them a good challenge.
But the worst part of it is that the author decided that it was not interesting to create this legandary Twisted Run dungeon after all so all he says about it is :
"Fake some tunnels that twists around, and after a few minutes, the PCs are in the BBEG room" !
If I say more, I will broke the CoC
Quite honestly, I liked that adventure. The worst thing I can say about it is that it felt like it could have been longer, but after reading a lot of what Wil Upchurch said got edited, I understand that parts were abbreviated.
I also appreciated the fact that Wil popped in here to Candlekeep to host the maps that he made for the adventure, and that he posted some of the alternate encounters that were edited out of the adventure due to the word count.
High level adventures can be a bear. I thought it was fun, and I've seen far worse examples. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 May 2006 : 02:10:20
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| Maybe after my exams are done, I'll motivate myself to put together something and see where it goes. I've got a couple of ideas floating about. |
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Getting More Forgotten Realms Content In Dungeon
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