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The_Mirt
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  04:21:14  Show Profile  Visit The_Mirt's Homepage Send The_Mirt a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I seem to have a problem, I'm starting to forget stuff about the FR books that I have read. Names, what it was about etc. I have every Forgotten Realms novel, escept a few of the newer ones. I have read about 60 of them, and the very first ones that I have read, I have forgotten most of everything, this would not sound so bad if I was reading them since 1987, but I just got into FR novels 4 years ago.
I would like to read all of them, but if I read all 200 or more of them, I think I would forget all previous ones.

Has anyone had this problem? Maybe my brain is bad... I'll put in for a transplant

Targon Moonrise
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  04:37:42  Show Profile  Visit Targon Moonrise's Homepage Send Targon Moonrise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I forget stuff all the time...where am I?

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  09:09:59  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mirt, even a casual look will tell you this. I know I have forgotten many things, and only noticed how much when I joined this forum in late January. I don't have many of the books, and most of what I have are the few that my brother did/does not.

I recently resolved to read through them again, as well as to visit the retail bookstores (I've been spoiled by used-book prices, and so haven't been around to notice new books).

However, the curse of Real Life invades my plans constantly. At least I'm done with my midterms -- perhaps I'll manage it over this next week, which I have off. Perhaps not. I still have a paper due, and a backlog of non-FR books. But we'll see.

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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  13:23:07  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have the same problem, i begin to read FR 8 years ago. So i read them again from time to time (i'm reading Tantras right now). It's cool to not remember everything, it's always a pleasure to read them
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MidNight
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Netherlands
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  13:47:47  Show Profile  Visit MidNight's Homepage Send MidNight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, you can also look at it that way. It doesn't only have to be a disadvantage not to remember everything. Expecially when you own the books! You can always look into them en refresh your mind. Like zemd says, then it's just fun not to have remembered everything.

Love magic for itself. Do not treat it just as a weapon to reshape the world to your will. True wisdom is knowing when not to use magic. Strive to use magic less as your powers develop, for often the threat or promise of its use outstrips is actual performance. Magic is an Art, the Gift of the Lady, and those who wield it are privileged it the extreme. Conduct yourself humbly, not proudly, while being mindful of this. Use the Art deftly and efficiently, not carelessly and recklessly. Seek always to learn and create new magic.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 14 Mar 2003 :  14:06:31  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyway i just think it's impossible to remember everything! That's why books are made for after all.
If someone wants to count how many books/Modules/Articles were released... May Tymora be with you.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/bibliography
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  01:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've had this problem as well. The first series I read was the Avatar trilogy, and it was only about seven months ago. Now I can hardly remember who killed which god (especially with the Cyrinishad saying that Cyric killed so many of them.)
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Targon Moonrise
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  01:50:20  Show Profile  Visit Targon Moonrise's Homepage Send Targon Moonrise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that Midnight killed Myrkul and Torm killed Bane but Bane was brought back by Lord Ao after the ToT.

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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  08:52:31  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought that Bane was brought back to life just recently. And why Ao did that?
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The_Mirt
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  21:10:26  Show Profile  Visit The_Mirt's Homepage Send The_Mirt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure that his followers brought him back to life, as I understand it, gods never truly die, their essence is either scattered throughout the planes (the case of Bane) or the God's power is absorbed by another god (Case of the pre ToT Mystra).

So basically if people decided to bring back Myrkul and Bhaal they could work hard enough and find a way to bring them back.

(I could be wrong, but dont think that I am)

~Mirt
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  23:22:01  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So what would Myrkul and Bhaal would have as portfolio? (I know it's a VERY bad phrase... still, if you understand...)
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The_Mirt
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USA
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Posted - 18 Mar 2003 :  00:01:30  Show Profile  Visit The_Mirt's Homepage Send The_Mirt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They would Compete with the same portfolio as Cyric and Kelemvor, Cyric and Kelemvor would more than likly just kill them again, and scatter there essence so that it would be harder to bring them back to life.

~Mirt
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 18 Mar 2003 :  19:04:17  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know a lot about the present days of faerun, but who's portfolio did Bane take?
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The_Mirt
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USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  20:27:17  Show Profile  Visit The_Mirt's Homepage Send The_Mirt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This Question, I dont know the Answer to, but more than likely Cyric's, since Cyric had most of Bane's old Portfolio's.

~Mirt
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  21:59:51  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemd:

>I don't know a lot about the present days of faerun, but who's
>portfolio did Bane take?

I think he took his own old portfolio back from Cyric.

Makes themm sound like investment bankers:

Tempus: So, Cyric, the portfolio's not quite so diverse. Bad strategy.

Cyric: Not *my* idea.

Bane: You snooze you lose, pal.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  22:04:41  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Cyric and Bane share the previous portfolio of Cyric?!

Damn i must read the present day's scrolls of Faerun, i'm late!
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Bookwyrm
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USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  23:45:50  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's better to say that they're competing for the portfolio. To say they share it sounds like they're woking together.

And yes, Branmakmuffin, ever since I came on here and heard the term portfolio to refer to this (this being the first I'd ever heard of it) I was thinking the same thing.

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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 :  19:07:53  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm:

>And yes, Branmakmuffin, ever since I came on here and heard the term
>portfolio to refer to this (this being the first I'd ever heard of
>it)

It's all over the place in various FR RPG materials. But you're a "novel only" FR person, right? I've never seen the term in a FR novel. It'd be kind of ridiculous in a novel to have characters discussing what "portfolios" their gods carry. It seems to me in non-FR D&D, their called "spheres".

>I was thinking the same thing.

Dang! I thought I was being so clever. You have shown me up for the last time.

--Unleash the sahuagin!

Take that, smart guy!
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 :  19:10:47  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemd:

>So Cyric and Bane share the previous portfolio of Cyric?!

I belive Bane took back from Cyric the portfolio Cyric got from Bane when Bane "died". I don't remember which one. Probably something evil ;-)
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 :  20:10:28  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bane's portfolio before ToT: Strife, Hatred, Tyranny
Cyric's portfolio before Bane's resurection: Murder, Strife, Lies, Intrigue, Deception, Illusion
Bane's portfolio after his resurection: Strife, Hatred, Tyranny, Fear
Cyric's portfolio after Bane's resurection: Murder, Lies, Intrigue, Deception, Illusion

You were right branmakmuffin. But i don't know who had Hatred, Tyranny, Fear
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Rekindin
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Posted - 20 Mar 2003 :  21:12:54  Show Profile  Visit Rekindin's Homepage Send Rekindin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look Mirt ,just read a little bit of the novels you first read and your memory will come back to you.

Please let me be your good part of your day
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branmakmuffin
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USA
428 Posts

Posted - 20 Mar 2003 :  22:40:33  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemd:

>I don't know who had Hatred, Tyranny, Fear

I don't either. I'm sure someone does and I'm surprised they haven't posted it yet.
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lowtech
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USA
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  00:45:22  Show Profile  Visit lowtech's Homepage Send lowtech a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Iyatchu Xvim (sp?) had the portfolio of Hatred and Tyranny. He was the son of Bane, and something else: Bane arranged things eons ago so that if he ever "died" his scattered essence could eventually coelesce and reform within the body of his son (the FRCS describes Xvim as a "sentient coccoon").
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  00:52:34  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lowtech:

>Bane arranged things eons ago so that if he ever "died" his
>scattered essence could eventually coelesce and reform within the
>body of his son (the FRCS describes Xvim as a "sentient coccoon").

I guess having your essence coalesce into a single entity is a better idea than scattering it amongst 1,000s and 1,000s of progeny.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 21 Mar 2003 :  08:12:31  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you lowtech. I only knew Iyatchu Xvim by name. I'll work on him
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The_Mirt
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 22 Mar 2003 :  02:26:16  Show Profile  Visit The_Mirt's Homepage Send The_Mirt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I understand now why I am forgetting so much, I counted the number of Forgotten Realms books that I have read... I have read 69 of them. I was thinking that I have only read about 40... ohh well.

~Mirt
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
1103 Posts

Posted - 22 Mar 2003 :  13:54:30  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And if you read the modules too, it'll become hard (IMO impossible) to remember everything . Or you are a droid or Oghma.
Know i remember where to find the info. For example when Rad asked where he could find a picture of Vangy, i remembered that i saw him in the Heroes' Lorebook, but i didn't remember his caracteristics, the details of his history, ...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 23 Mar 2003 :  19:23:51  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're lucky, Zemd, I usually can't even remember that.

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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 23 Mar 2003 :  21:37:41  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Modules aren't like books. As a DM, i'm used to pick some info on every books around me. Furthermore, reading the title i can now remember what i deals about. It's more habitude than memory
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 24 Mar 2003 :  07:01:04  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I still have a problem. But I guess if it was in a book I paged through a lot, that would be different. Still, that's a lot of books you have, you know! And all on the same general subject. I still think it's better than I could do.

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