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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  16:19:23  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm writing a backstory for a new character and I'm trying to think of an occupation for my character's mother and I can use some help.

She is from Triel and is a rather simple, uneducated woman. That's really the only requirements. The only thing that really pops into my head is Tavern Wench/Serving Girl but I feel that's a little cliche and would like something different.

If anybody would like to chime in with some ideas it would be greatly appreciated.

I checked Kuje's "Laborers of Toril" articles in the compendiums but most of those professions require education, and for the ideas I have for this person she really needs to be not only uneducated, but not not overly intelligent either.

Thanks for any ideas...

Kentinal
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  16:25:19  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Farmer

Seanstress

A cook

Day worker.

Prositute of course is posible as well.

Many common jobs, do not require a lot of education.

Hech being a serving wrench one needs to be able to add and make change quickly, which could require more education then cooking.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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Faramicos
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Denmark
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  16:25:43  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She could be a seamstres... She could work as a housekeeper for a noble family... Thats just what is on top of my head. If you cant use it, let me know, and i will give it a little more thought.

"When dragons make war, worlds can only tremble in the shadow of angry wings"
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  16:56:14  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actor – a person who acts in plays
Apothecary – a chemist, druggist, or pharmacist
Architect – a designer and supervisor of the construction of buildings
Armourer – a maker, repairer, or keeper of armour
Arrowsmith – a maker of arrowheads
Assassin – a killer for hire
Astrologer – a reader of stars and fates
Baker – one who makes and sells bread and similar produce
Bandit – robber, especially a member of an armed gang
Banker – one who looks after money
Barber – a surgeon, bloodletter, dentists and haircutter
Barkeep – one who runs a bar
Barmaid – one who serves patrons
Barrister – a lawyer or one who pleads the case of another before a noble’s court
Beggar – one who asks for food or money
Bellfounder – a caster of bells
Blacksmith – a worker of iron with a furnace and anvil
Bloomer – a man who works an iron smelting forge
Bladesmith – a smith who specialises in sword blades
Bookbinder – a maker of books
Bowyer – a maker of bows
Brazier – a smith who works in brass, sometimes a travelling workman
Brewer – a maker of ales, bitters, stouts and beer
Bricklayer – a labourer who builds walls and buildings
Butcher – a seller of meat
Butler – chief male servant
Carpenter – one who makes or repairs wooden structures
Carrier – one who hauls messages or small goods
Carter – a teamster, a hauler of goods
Cartwright – a builder of wagons and carts
Carver – a sculptor in wood
Chandler – a maker of candles
Chapman – a travelling peddler who normally frequents small villages
Churl – a freedom farmer of some wealth
Clerk – a scribe who generally handles business accounts
Clockmaker – a maker of clocks
Cobbler – a mender of old shoes
Collier – a burner of charcoal for smelting
Coppersmith – a copper worker
Cook – one who cooks food
Cooper – a barrel maker
Cordwainer – a shoemaker
Councillor – a member of a discussion group or governing body
Crier – one who announces news and events
Cutler – a maker of knives and silverware
Dragoman – an official interpreter or guide
Draper – a cloth merchant
Dressmaker – a maker of dresses
Dyer – one who dyes clothing
Embroiderer – a needleworker who decorates fabric with intricate designs of thread
Enameller – a jeweller specialising in enamel work
Engineer – one who applies scientific principles to design or construction
Engraver – a jeweller specialising in decorative engraving
Farrier – a maker of horseshoes
Fisherman – one who catches fish
Fishmonger – a fish dealer
Fletcher – an arrow maker
Forester – an official responsible for the lord’s woodlands
Fuller – a felt maker
Furrier – a tailor of fur garments
Gamekeeper – one who breeds game and prevents poaching
Gardener – a cultivator of gardens and parks
Gemcutter – a jeweller specialising in gemstones
Gilder – a craftsman of gilt gold and silver
Girdler – a maker of belts and girdles
Glassblower – a maker of items made of glass
Glazier – one who cuts and sets glass
Glover – a maker of gloves
Goatherd – a keeper of goats
Goldbeater – a maker of gold foil
Goldsmith – a jeweller who works with gold
Governor – a senior administrator of a society or institution
Grocer – a wholesaler, particularly of every-day items
Groom – a man who tends horses
Guard – one who guards people or objects
Haberdasher – a merchant of small notions, thread, and needles
Harpmaker – a maker of harps
Hatter – one who makes hats
Herald – a courtier skilled in etiquette and heraldry
Herbalist – a practitioner of herbal cures
Hewer – one who digs coal or other minerals
Horner – a worker of horn
Hosier – a maker of hose and garters
Hosteller – an innkeeper
Interpreter – a translator
Ironmonger – a dealer, not maker, of ironwork
Jester – a professional clown
Jeweller – dealer in jewels and jewellery
Joiner – a cabinet or furniture maker
Knife-grinder – a sharpener of knives
Labourer – one who does manual work
Laundress – a washer and ironer of clothes
Latoner – a brass-worker
Leech – a non-clerical doctor
Limeburner – a maker of lime for mortar
Limner – a painter
Linkboy – a lantern- or torch-bearer
Locksmith – a maker and mender of locks
Lutemaker – a maker of lutes
Maid – a female servant
Marbler – a cutter and carver of marble
Mason – a worker in building stone, brick, and plaster
Mercer – a cloth dealer
Merchant – one who engages in trade
Messenger – a bearer of a message
Miller – a one who operates a grain mill
Miner – one who works in a mine
Minstrel – a singer or musician
Minter – a maker of coins
Nailsmith – a smith specialising in nails
Navigator – one skilled in the arts of direction finding and navigation
Noble – a person of titles and high social rank
Painter – one who paints
Parchment-maker – a maker of parchment
Paviour – a mason specialised in paving streets
Pewterer – one who works pewter
Plasterer – a specialist in plastering
Playwright – one who writes plays
Ploughman – a worker of the field
Porter – a hauler of goods
Potter – a maker of metal, or alternatively, clay pots
Poulterer – a dealer of chickens or other forms of poultry
Priest – an official who performs religious ceremonies
Prophet – one who predicts the future
Pursemaker – a maker of purses
Quarrier – one who digs and cuts stone
Saddler –a maker of saddles
Sage – a scholar
Sailor – a member of a ship’s crew
Saucemaker – a cook who specialises in preparing sauces
Scribe – a secretary or one who can write
Scrivener – a copyist
Seamstress – one whose occupation is sewing
Servant – a household worker
Shearman – a man who trims the loose wool from the cloth to finish it
Sheather – a maker of scabbards and knife sheaths
Shepherd – a tender of sheep
Shipwright – a builder of ships and boats
Skinner – a butcher who prepares hides for tanning
Slave – one owned by another and forced to work for them
Soapmaker – a maker of soap
Soldier – a member of an army
Spurrier – a maker of spurs
Spy – one employed to obtain secret information or watch others
Swineherd – a keeper of pigs
Tailor – a maker of men’s clothes
Tanner – a leather-maker
Teamster – a hauler of goods by wagon or cart
Tilemaker – a maker of tiles
Tinker – a travelling craftsman who repairs tin pots and similar items
Tinner – a tin miner
Trapper – one who traps animals for their fur
Vintner – a maker of wines
Waller – a mason who sets stones and brick for walls
Waterleader – a water hauler
Weaver – one who makes fabric
Wheelwright – one who makes and repairs wheels
Wiredrawer – a maker of wire
Woodturner – a lathe-worker
Writer – one who writes

This list is by no means complete. Medieval occupations were highly specialised. A man might spend all his life working as a miner of iron and be considered to have a very different occupation from a miner of tin.
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  17:01:19  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, I'm impressed with that list you just rattled off.

Thanks for the replies...
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Kentinal
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  17:08:14  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh one idea occured to me that does not require much education as well. Alewife, maker of beers and/or ale esential in Medieval times because clean drinking water was rare, making a beer in effect became a safe drink instead of water.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe

USA
552 Posts

Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  17:33:09  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What do you call people who milks cows, makes cheese, or makes butter?

I realize the simple answer would be "farmer", but I'm looking for a more specific name for any of these if one exists.
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
1176 Posts

Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  17:35:58  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane

What do you call people who milks cows, makes cheese, or makes butter?

I realize the simple answer would be "farmer", but I'm looking for a more specific name for any of these if one exists.



Dairymaid for a female
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
1176 Posts

Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  17:36:58  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane

Wow, I'm impressed with that list you just rattled off.

Thanks for the replies...



I stole it from Reefy a while back, send your thanks on to him
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Kentinal
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Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  18:10:42  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Milkmaid takes milk, most milk as a matter of course was made into butter or cheese.

Cheeseman or Cheesewoman

Butter Maker

There is also a Butter craver, one that made imprints in butter.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist

USA
11829 Posts

Posted - 21 Apr 2006 :  19:25:13  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sex slave
house slave
field slave
mine slave
skeletal farmer foreman (foremistress?)
bone carver
Giant Spider tender
silk spinner
red dye #5 specialist

Oh, wait, these are all for uneducated Thayan women <g>.

Phillip aka Sleyvas

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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