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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  13:36:17  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

I never had a problem with RAS book on this matter before, except maybe for the facts that clerical spells suck terribly but in PofWK, when I read that the daemons were coming from Gehenna... Forst the first time im my life, I said to myself that WOTC editors should have done their job



Daemons are the native residents of Gehenna.

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Brace Cormaeril
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Posted - 06 Oct 2010 :  13:38:07  Show Profile  Visit Brace Cormaeril's Homepage Send Brace Cormaeril a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Faraer

In Bob's defence, the materials he had didn't definitely specify the colour of Dove's hair, and glitches like this are as much the editor's fault.

Personally, I don't think it's the business of anyone's novels to use up long-standing hooks like Gauntlgrym. Same with things like the Sleeping Sword, and Jim Butler's ridiculous incidental conclusion of the Randal Morn plot in his module trilogy. Better for authors to make up their own sites in such cases.



i think you will find the community divided over this issue. Many fans of FR *want* long-running hooks resolved. Check out Ed's thread.

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questing gm
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Malaysia
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Posted - 08 Oct 2010 :  14:57:39  Show Profile  Visit questing gm's Homepage Send questing gm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's a novel trailer by Wizards on the new Gauntlgyrm novel. If it can shed some light into anything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfAE7sQuaXE&feature=sub
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Kno
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 :  20:30:40  Show Profile Send Kno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what's this bird doing in Gauntlgrym http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dufe/20101007

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Markustay
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 :  21:28:32  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is some ugly 70's era cartoony looking art there.

I believe that is one of those head-pieces that some armor helmets have atop them. Its so dark and smudgy-looking its hard to tell though.

Does Todd Lockwood still even work for them anymore, is that another dept. that has suffered from budget cuts? I've seen amateur stuff on DeviantART that looks WAY better.

Of course, art is highly subjective so that is purely IMHO.

Can't comment on an article I'm not willing to pay to read, but I'm curious as to why B.C. is in Gauntlgrym? The direction the lore may take leaves me cringing (I'm picturing tentacled dwarves right now).

But who knows? One can only hope he has gotten his Mojo back. I wouldn't mind hearing some opinions on it, for those of you who have read it. I'm just wondering which direction he went with stuff. After salvatore used that odd creature (Ethereal Marauder) in the other novel, I hope he hasn't been infected by the 'aberration bug' as well.


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BEAST
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  09:14:48  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kno

what's this bird doing in Gauntlgrym http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dufe/20101007

The abstract to that article reads, in part:
quote:
To memorialize their fantastic discovery, the dwarves prepared a haunting treatise that touched on the city’s appearance and also told of a secret cult of firestarters, murderous avian humanoids, dwarf ghosts, and a buried primordial (bold added).

So I'm gonna go with practicing a secret cult and murdering.

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

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Quale
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  10:24:19  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dire corbies I think
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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  10:27:50  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup, the DDI Gauntlgrym article has stats for several Dire Corby variants... There's a precedent for these things, isn't there? I'm sure I've heard of them before...

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Quale
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  11:16:03  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yea, there was a place called Acid Aerie (sp?), got destroyed by Zaknafein and Drizzt, they are remnants of the avian creator race
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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  11:22:25  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, right... the back story to them in the article is, erm, slightly different, shall we say...

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Quale
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  21:27:42  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so what's the relation of the corbies and illithids there?

these birds are weird enough without the Lovecraftian element

are they cultists of Pazuzu?

is there a mention of the Gray Wolf curse?
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Cleric Generic
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Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  22:21:46  Show Profile  Visit Cleric Generic's Homepage Send Cleric Generic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They're just mutant birds, according to the DDI article. They were trapped in the underdark, lost their power of flight and developed a rudimentary and aggressive intelligence... that's pretty much it, really. No mention of avian creator races or any such things.

EDIT: the article is pretty brief, and half of it is dire corby stat blocks. There's nothing about illithids or Pazuzu.

EDIT 2: Reading comprehension, never mind...

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Edited by - Cleric Generic on 13 Oct 2010 22:34:25
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ArklemGreeth
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Posted - 15 Oct 2010 :  05:08:33  Show Profile  Visit ArklemGreeth's Homepage Send ArklemGreeth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BEAST

quote:
Originally posted by ArklemGreeth

no actually i was refering to the novel when bruenor was searching for mithral hall,

Actually, you said Bruenor was looking for "the same damn thing". He is searching for Gauntlgrym this time around, so you were indicating that he was searching for Gauntlgrym before.




Calm down buddy, Although i was incorrect in the dates i was generally correct in the ideas. i was pissed because i read the first chapter of gauntlgrym and i thought what i paniced, because it was a mediocre start and having just read the ghost king i thought o no another mediocre effort. but now i can gladly say BOY WAS I WRONG. Not only did the book takee off flying after the first chapter, it was NOTHING like i had anticipated. so i say hail Bob because this book is one of the best ones to date. its got everything i need in a bob novel, assassins, dark elves, cults liches, and even ARKLEM GREETH makes an apearance. its almost as if Bob heard my reply and decided to make fun of me. hahaha. Gauntlgrym best book to date, i stand corrected

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ArklemGreeth
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Posted - 17 Oct 2010 :  15:48:29  Show Profile  Visit ArklemGreeth's Homepage Send ArklemGreeth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kno

what's this bird doing in Gauntlgrym http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/dufe/20101007



a dire corby, in the new novel as jarkaxle and athrogate try to move through gauntlgrym the dires attack them and they escape barely when the elf woman dahlia uses the cloke she stole from the descendant of the crow to turn herself into a giant crow, as the corbys bow down in supersticion jarl and athrp make their escape

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