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Arivia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  04:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In preparation for an upcoming campaign, I'm gathering lore on Undermountain. I have all the major sources(the two Ruins box sets, Skullport, the 3 Dungeon Crawl modules, the web articles here and on wizards.com, and the Nobles series novel), but for some reason I think there are some smaller sources I'm missing---didn't Steven write a few Dragon articles on the Yawning Portal? I'd check, but I can't remember the issue numbers.

Edited by - Arivia on 07 Apr 2006 04:38:13

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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  04:54:07  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Reports from Undermoutain Dragon 227
Seeing the Sights in Skullport Dragon 172
If you need help ask the drow Dragon 176

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The Great Modron March from Planescape has a entry in Undermountain. :)

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sleyvas
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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  15:04:03  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe there was a novel that I never read called Escape from Undermountain or somesuch

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Dargoth
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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  15:05:01  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I believe there was a novel that I never read called Escape from Undermountain or somesuch



Thats the Nobles series novel Arivia's refering to

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I believe there was a novel that I never read called Escape from Undermountain or somesuch



You're lucky. I have read it.

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Arivia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2006 :  15:44:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I believe there was a novel that I never read called Escape from Undermountain or somesuch



You're lucky. I have read it.



I don't actually remember it being that bad; should I burn my copy?
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*shrugs* I've read worse FR-novels. I rather liked the talking skull as a matter of fact. I've always felt Hamlet could've used one

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Arivia
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  03:01:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And in my effort to sort out Undermountain, here's the timeline of Undermountain-related products/snapshots I came up with:

Escape From Undermountain: 1325 DR
FR1 Waterdeep And The North: Mirtul, 1357 DR
Faiths and Avatars(Ibrandul's corpse reference): 1358 DR
Ruins of Undermountain I: 1360 DR
"If You Need Help --- Ask The Drow!" [Dragon #176]: 1360/1361 DR [About 6 months past Ruins I]
Ruins of Undermountain II: 1367/1368 DR
City of Splendors [boxed set]: 1367/1368 DR
"I Sing A Song By The Deep-Water Bay" [Dragon #211]: 1367/1368 DR
The Lost Level: 1368 DR
"The Reports From Undermountain" [Dragon #227]: Eleint, 1368 DR
Maddgoth's Castle: post-20 Eleint, 1368 DR
Iakhovas' Attack on Waterdeep: Ches 30, 1369 DR
The Great Modron March: ??? [pre-Highharvestide, 1369 DR]
Stardock: Highharvestide, 1369 DR
Skullport: Post-Highharvestide, 1369 DR
Elminster In Hell: 1372 DR
Dawn of Night[Erevis Cale Trilogy, Book II]: ??? [1374 DR?]
City of Splendors: Waterdeep : Midsummer, 1374 DR
Return to Undermountain[web articles]: Post-Highharvestide, 1369 DR [Midsummer, 1374 DR?]

Any obvious errors/ideas as to the looser dates?

Edited by - Arivia on 18 Apr 2006 22:33:55
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  14:11:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to the out-of-date fiction listing on the WotC page (Presenting . . . Seven Millennia of Realms Fiction), Escape From Undermountain is set in 1325. That makes it one of the few exceptions to the "stick to the present or very recent past" policy for novels...

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Arivia
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  21:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

According to the out-of-date fiction listing on the WotC page (Presenting . . . Seven Millennia of Realms Fiction), Escape From Undermountain is set in 1325. That makes it one of the few exceptions to the "stick to the present or very recent past" policy for novels...



Okay, thanks.
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Asgetrion
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Posted - 09 Apr 2006 :  23:49:37  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

I believe there was a novel that I never read called Escape from Undermountain or somesuch



You're lucky. I have read it.



Me too And hated every word of it.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 11 Apr 2006 :  22:55:14  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"I Sing A Song By The Deep-Water Bay" [Dragon #211]: ??? [pre-1370 DR]

I can barely recall this article, but very little in it ties it to timeframes. Even so, I'd place this time-wise equal to the 2E COS box (1367ish) simply because a lot of it was generated for that box but never appeared due to space considerations and time....

And I even managed to use some of the locations in BLACKSTAFF, once Eric reminded me of this article...

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The Sage
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 :  01:50:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Steven... you really have to stop sharing so much about Blackstaff .

You're making my anticipation for it grow with every single scroll you've shared novel tidbits in today... .

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Arivia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 :  03:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

"I Sing A Song By The Deep-Water Bay" [Dragon #211]: ??? [pre-1370 DR]

I can barely recall this article, but very little in it ties it to timeframes. Even so, I'd place this time-wise equal to the 2E COS box (1367ish) simply because a lot of it was generated for that box but never appeared due to space considerations and time....

And I even managed to use some of the locations in BLACKSTAFF, once Eric reminded me of this article...



Thanks, Steven.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 :  03:52:07  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Steven... you really have to stop sharing so much about Blackstaff .

You're making my anticipation for it grow with every single scroll you've shared novel tidbits in today... .




You're not the only one!

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Arivia
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Posted - 12 Apr 2006 :  03:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe he's doing like the "I heard it's in first printing right now!" dance or something?
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Steven Schend
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Maybe he's doing like the "I heard it's in first printing right now!" dance or something?



Afraid not, but I do believe it's in galleys and being proofed by mine editors.... Won't be out any earlier than July, alas.....

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