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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 22:18:30
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I have two questions related to the wars against the Tuigan. I would appreciate it if someone would please answer them for me.
In The Horde Campaign (FR12) it is stated (p. 52): "On Tarsakh (April) 10, King Azoun of Cormyr summoned a council...." I had long thought that meant the council met on that date, but now that it is finally approaching in my own campaign, I realize that there is nothing in the text which states that explicitly, and the rest of the account is not affected if Azoun merely sent out invitations on that date (after conferring with Vangy, Dimswart, et al.) and the council met weeks later. Will someone please point me to a canonical statement of the date of the council itself and (if not Tarsakh 10) when the invitation did go out?
My other question concerns the Shou Lung spelljammer fleet. What in the Realms was it doing when these superstitious heathen were swarming across the ground and communications between the capital and garrisons in the west were very, very bad? I can't find any mention of what should have been a significant campaign (and likely an easy victory) for the dragon ships.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Apr 2006 : 05:50:14
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
My other question concerns the Shou Lung spelljammer fleet. What in the Realms was it doing when these superstitious heathen were swarming across the ground and communications between the capital and garrisons in the west were very, very bad? I can't find any mention of what should have been a significant campaign (and likely an easy victory) for the dragon ships.
That would have ruined the plot, though, and Hollywood has taught us the cardinal rule in any story/movie/show/book: making the plot continue as planned is the highest consideration. 
While I don't know of any real answer for your question, it is stated that the Shou have an on-again/off-again relationship with space. I'd assume that the Tuigan invasion happened during one of the off-phases.
Another alternative is that Wa took the opportunity to pressure Shou Lung during this time; their Locusts and Tsunamis could easily rip thru a fleet of Dragonships. Under this scenario, the Shou fleet had to ignore what was going on on the ground because they had their hands full above the sky. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 02 Apr 2006 05:52:43 |
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bloodtide_the_red
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 04 Apr 2006 : 05:59:07
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Your not going to find a better timeline for the Horde, so it's best to use that. I'd say the council did in fact meet on Tarsakh 10. When writing history you don't realy note the day invitations go out. So read 'summoned a council' as 'had the meeting'
In general Realmslore they have to forget about all the powerful stuff for the sake of the story. That's what the Shou fleet never showed up. Though you could see it as the 'nuke', the leaders never though the war went that bad that they needed to call in the fleet. They did 'win' without the fleet after all...
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 06 Apr 2006 : 00:44:36
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
That would have ruined the plot, though, and Hollywood has taught us the cardinal rule in any story/movie/show/book: making the plot continue as planned is the highest consideration.
While I don't know of any real answer for your question, it is stated that the Shou have an on-again/off-again relationship with space. I'd assume that the Tuigan invasion happened during one of the off-phases.
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That makes some sense -- The Ming closed China after Admiral Ch'en Ho took an enormous fleet (more powerful than than all the European navies of the time combined) at least as far as east Africa. The Chinese were in a few years of "discovering" Europe and bringing the blessings of civilization and Buddhism to its savage, heathen inhabitants when they abruptly stopped all naval ventures more sophisticated than coastal fishing.
Ch'en Ho first sailed after the death of Tamerlane (who died while laying plans to add China to his empire), so perhaps we may extrapolate from the RW to FR by saying that the peril of invasion by horse nomads is a spur to exploration and that Shou Lung's air fleet was mothballed until the Tuigan suggested to the Emperor that controlling the air was a good way to deal with the outer barbarians.
Any other theories?
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Gladi
Acolyte
Czech Republic
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Posted - 10 Apr 2006 : 15:40:42
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Bright day
I think I read somewhere, but not sure about cannonity, that besides of dragonships that are used to counter other navies, the Shou spelljammers take to long journeys through wildspace and their turnover can be over dozen years. Though they are now working on keeping of viable reserve. |
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