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                       What what what? im intrigued since there are so many references in FR of glass buildings and towers etc. I wonder which it will be about. | 
                     
                    
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                       Interesting. No real information to go by re author or subject. I guess we'll have to wait for the powers that be to illuminate us. Also interesting that it appears to be a hardcover ...
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                       I don't think the author's really Grag A. Vaughan, either. Greg Vaughan, though, has written for Dungeon but not in the Realms.
  So, exercise in speculating from truly limited information. I like the 'of': classic module naming there. The title as a whole is more high-concept than I'd prefer. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
  Interesting. No real information to go by re author or subject. I guess we'll have to wait for the powers that be to illuminate us. Also interesting that it appears to be a hardcover ...
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  A $10 hardcover, with 32 pages? Thinks I that there is a misprint somewhere... | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Were'nt those Pyrimids under Ascore made of glass? | 
                     
                    
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                       I'm betting that its another book along the lines of Sons of Grummsh, and in that vein, it may indeed be a Dungeon writer that writes this book.  That having been said, the first things that spring to mind about Citadels of Glass are the glass ruins in the Farsea Marshes and the Marsh of Tun.  
  Sons of Grummsh was pretty good  (not great, but pretty good), and did a pretty good job adding some to Realmslore and not contradicting what had come before, so I'm game for this one, although it if is about the glass ruins, I'm a little leary of whatever secret they hold being revealed in a relatively short adventure that isn't tied to a particular sourcebook. | 
                     
                    
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                       Hello-
  Aye - something must be wrong - should not be a 32-page $9.95 hardcover. My money is on the 'hardcover' portion.
  BTW - anyone know hoe the Amazon listing thing works? They must get their information somewhere - so the fact that its 'coming' is known to some people somewhere....
  I just always found that it was somewhat dis-heartening to find out about new releases in this way. I'd rather get a note on the WOTC site - that says - "Hey - product XYZ is coming - keep an eye out for more details!" and then release information to Amazon etc.
  Oh well - I guess I should not complain too much! 
  I wonder if this is planned due to possible success with Son of Grummsh?
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                      |  I don't know how successful Sons of Gruumsh was, but I would be willing to bet that it at least made money, and so was a successful test run for releasing new adventures.  I doubt it did "super well" though, or else they may have risked another City of the Spider Queen sized adventures.  Then again, Red Hand of Doom is the "test run" for larger scale adventures, even though its a "generic" adventure. | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by Faraer
  I don't think the author's really Grag A. Vaughan, either. Greg Vaughan, though, has written for Dungeon but not in the Realms.
  Hmmm... isn't Grag A. Vaughan actually an artist?
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                       Well met
  Ahh, a good find, Dargoth.  I'm certainly glad to see another Realms adventure being released.  It does appear that the "32 pages" is the correct portion of the format, based on the price (akin to Sons of Gruumsh).  However, i'd very much like to see a module produced along the same format as Red Hand of Doom.
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                      |  I hope they keep using the D&D mini card statistics on the monsters... it simplified my job as a DM so much (i.e. one card for each player, and the D&D mini card for the monsters... put them in initiative order and just send the card at the back after the PC's/Monster's turn... :) and no need to look at the end of the book for stats! :) ) | 
                     
                    
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                       quote: Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
  I don't know how successful Sons of Gruumsh was, but I would be willing to bet that it at least made money, and so was a successful test run for releasing new adventures.  I doubt it did "super well" though, or else they may have risked another City of the Spider Queen sized adventures.  Then again, Red Hand of Doom is the "test run" for larger scale adventures, even though its a "generic" adventure.
 
  
  I thought they had another super adventure slated for this year? It might not be FR, but it I could have sworn I heard another large one was coming out. Looks like its research time.  
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                       I don't need the super adventure- I like Sons of Gruumsh... If WotC wants to release more $9.95 "old school" modules, that's fine by me... I like the trilogy of Eberron modules, too, for that matter...  I like the idea of modules you can run as stand-alones, or part of a larger adventure...  But I think I need to check out these mini-cards you're talking about!  Are they xerox-ready for easy gaming, with photos and stats?  How do they work?
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                       quote: Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
  I don't know how successful Sons of Gruumsh was, but I would be willing to bet that it at least made money, and so was a successful test run for releasing new adventures.  I doubt it did "super well" though, or else they may have risked another City of the Spider Queen sized adventures.  Then again, Red Hand of Doom is the "test run" for larger scale adventures, even though its a "generic" adventure.
 
  
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                       quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
  Were'nt those Pyrimids under Ascore made of glass?
 
  
  they were made of hte same red stone material that Karsus' stone was made of. | 
                     
                    
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                       I thought I remembered seeing some old map (1st or 2nd Edition) of the Moonsea area that had a crystal/glass tower or something like that at the mouth of the Stojanow River, where Phlan is now? For the life of me, I can't find that map now, but I thought it was a 'crystal tower' or 'glass tower' or something along those lines... 
  As for Ascore, I don't think that's the place, otherwise the name of the adventure would be "The Crystal Pyramid"... 
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                       quote: Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe
  I thought I remembered seeing some old map (1st or 2nd Edition) of the Moonsea area that had a crystal/glass tower or something like that at the mouth of the Stojanow River, where Phlan is now? For the life of me, I can't find that map now, but I thought it was a 'crystal tower' or 'glass tower' or something along those lines... 
  As for Ascore, I don't think that's the place, otherwise the name of the adventure would be "The Crystal Pyramid"... 
  The mystery continues:  Where is the "Citadel of Glass"? 
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  Sokal Keep is at the mouth Stojanow river (along with the city of Phlan)
  Theres are Pyrimid further up the river but Im pretty sure its not made of glass
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                       quote: Originally posted by Dargoth
 
 quote: Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe
  I thought I remembered seeing some old map (1st or 2nd Edition) of the Moonsea area that had a crystal/glass tower or something like that at the mouth of the Stojanow River, where Phlan is now? For the life of me, I can't find that map now, but I thought it was a 'crystal tower' or 'glass tower' or something along those lines... 
  As for Ascore, I don't think that's the place, otherwise the name of the adventure would be "The Crystal Pyramid"... 
  The mystery continues:  Where is the "Citadel of Glass"? 
  Ahwe
 
  
  Sokal Keep is at the mouth Stojanow river (along with the city of Phlan)
  Theres are Pyrimid further up the river but Im pretty sure its not made of glass
 
 
  
  The keep is definitely not made of glass, and the pyramid neither. See Ruins of Adventure for details of the pyramid (If my memory serves me, updated Realmslore lists it as Netherese in origin, with the resident wizards adapting to the Imaskari lifestyle? I may be wrong here, though  ) | 
                     
                    
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                      |  Theres an old FR module in Dungeon 15 called the Glass house set near Waterdeep... | 
                     
                    
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                       Citadel of Glass? Maybe something to do with Glass-steel and the flying-elves (edit: Avariel)?
  Are we sure this is actually a module and not a novel? I thought there was an upcoming series with citadels as the main topic.
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                       quote: Originally posted by Bocklin
  Citadel of Glass? Maybe something to do with Glass-steel and the flying-elves (forgotten their names)?
  Are we sure this is actually a module and not a novel? I thought there was an upcoming series with citadels as the main topic.
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                       quote: Originally posted by Dargoth Not unless Wizards of the coast are doing 32 page novels  
 
  
  Euh... Well... Hum...  
  From the product description it even looks like they are doing 32 page hardcover novels!  
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                       Doesn't the FRCS make mention of ruined, glass-like buildings at the center of one of the great marshes/bogs bordering Cormyr?
  If yes, that's where my money is at for the location of this adventure.
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                       Well, the reason Sons of Gruumsh was so useful was the statblocks for basic orcs. Once you have that many statblocks for basic orcs, you're pretty much set for about 25 percent of all low-level D+D games ever. :) 
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                       Hello-
  Hmmm - very strange - you would think that Amazon / Amazon.ca would have basically the same feed for listings - but mayhaps not....
  Maybe this is just an indication that the Portals linking FR and Earth have been found recently - by some priests of Mask perhaps....
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                       Richard Pett (regular Dungeon contributor and author of "Fields of Ruins" - the mini/rpg module coming out this month) has mentioned the following on the Paizo Boards:
 
 quote: "...and keep your eyes peeled for a Forgotten Realms adventure by Greg Vaughan coming out in the autumn"
  
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  http://paizo.com/dungeon/messageboards/dnd/general/forRPettFieldsOfRuinQuestion
  I don't know how up-to-date Richard is with WotC's publication calendar, but it sounds like it would be for this year. So we would get our "4th quarter FR product".
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                       So now we have a reply from the author (Greg Vaughan) about this name conundrum and some hints as to the content of the module (set in the Unnaproachable East and involving "Elves who are not there")!
  Enjoy! 
  The quote below is just an excerpt and I encourage you to go over to Paizo's Boards to see the full-length and very witty post from Greg.
  http://paizo.com/dungeon/messageboards/dnd/general/forRPettFieldsOfRuinQuestion&page=1#68829
 
 
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  Greg V (Subscriber), 6 hours, 48 minutes ago  
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  To Bocklin in regards to the title. You don't know the half of it...literally. As far as I know there were actually four titles in the mix at one time or other.
  When the assignment was given to me, it had the working title "Citadel of Glass" but allowed that I had some creative license with it. I suggested "The Midnight Tomb". They felt that to be a bit blase'. To avoid any association with the blase' (like that Pett fellow, for instance) I turned the manuscript in under "Night Realm of the Duskwalker". I never heard anything else about the title and all the contracts and payments and stuff came through as "Citadel of Glass", so I kind of assumed that would be it. Now it appears that "The Twilight Tomb" is the latest incarnation, so my money would be on that as the actual print title.
  (... snip ...)
  Back on topic. I probably can't say much since it has yet to be released, but I'll give you some basics and tantalizing snippets to encourage you to rush to your FLGS and preorder a copy.
  It is in the Forgotten Realms, as I believe has been mentioned. It's in the Unapproachable East...sort of. It's about elves (really, what in FR isn't?) but there aren't really any in it. It ties in strongly with the rich FR lore and history and  (... snip ...)
 
 
  
 
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