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Jalfrez
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 22 Feb 2003 : 19:47:06
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There have been a lot of dangers in Faruen, but I want to know the one think that could have dominated it.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 : 20:02:04
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I think that the time of Troubles is a quite good example of a VERY dangerous threat for the Reamls no?
Anyway, the heroes of the novels bearly alwways save the world at the end  |
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Kendillin
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 22 Feb 2003 : 20:03:06
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Jalfrez
Acolyte
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2003 : 21:55:39
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Millike for all
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2003 : 01:51:44
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| I agree with zemd and think the Time of Troubles would be the worst threat to Faerun, because it was the only time when the Balance was threatened. There have been other great evil acts, but they weren't a real threat because they were just a part of the Balance. |
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MidNight
Acolyte
Netherlands
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Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 21:08:32
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I also agree with zemd.
Maybe the gods themselves are the biggest threat to Faerun, but also the ones able to restore it, in the end. |
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Strahd Von Zarovich
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
135 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2003 : 23:26:23
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I must agree that 'The Time of Troubles' was probably one of the most threatening things to happen to Faerun.
But none of that compares to the dangers that the Scribe of this Keep could do, after a Bhuna on a Friday night of heavy mead drinking and much merryment  . You ought to see that guy in action. His powers would even make Manshoon tremble in his boots and his Mortal Combat-esque get up! 
Speaking of Manshoon, maybe one day those Zhents will cause some havoc once more.  |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 09:27:19
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I think the Avatar Crisis (Time of Troubles) will always be the greatest event for Faerun....gods walking the land and unpredictable magic is pretty hard to beat!
I heard some time ago that the events of the Threat from the Sea series was to be MUCH larger scale and destruction that it turned out to be, and the author was told to tone down the finale in the last novel for some reason. Shame  |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2003 : 09:29:44
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Originally posted by Strahd Von Zarovich
But none of that compares to the dangers that the Scribe of this Keep could do, after a Bhuna on a Friday night of heavy mead drinking and much merryment . You ought to see that guy in action. His powers would even make Manshoon tremble in his boots and his Mortal Combat-esque get up!
 I know nothing of these events ::hic:: |
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Leona
Acolyte
38 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 05:41:24
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Future, more immediate global threats could be the Return of Bane, which will definitely see some clashes between the Dark Sun and the Banites. Otherwise, Shar and Mystra might clash due to the Shadow Weave.
More localised threats could be how Cormyr survives without Azoun, the view of the other interest groups on the Thayan Enclaves and of course who can forget the arrival of Shade? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 09:12:12
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2003 : 09:27:23
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Wee! Sounds like fun!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 09:44:33
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Actually I think the idea of a massive rise of local conflicts that'll lead to a toril wide war, as Zemd said, is an interesting idea.
Just imagining an series of efficient assassinations (supported by the Zhentarim, or the Red Wizards) of popular or prominent leaders for some important Realms nations, all carried out Realms-wide and at relatively the same time with the Zhentarim then quickly taking over control, would be enough of a threat to induce a near-Realms wide conflict, not to mention the chaos that would follow, is reason enough to be a little worried at what some situations could bring.
 Ahh... the possibilities...
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Leona
Acolyte
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Posted - 20 May 2003 : 09:44:44
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Originally posted by zemd
To put it in a nutshell, Leona, you think that there'll be a massive rise of local conflicts that'll lead to a toril wide war?
Not all happening at the same time though. Whatever comes first will be decided by the name of the year. (Ok, so I forgot what is 1373 DR) My guess is that Shade and the Heartlands will be the first conflict. Later we could see how Luskan plots against the Silver Marches, by having a drug operation there. Remember, Khelben and Fzoul had an agreement to limit Zhentarim expansion to the west of the Moonsea region for 30 years, so that could be the next.
Of course this is all just my hypothetical guess. Feel free to add stuff like the split of Amn, more surface invasions from Menzoberrezan, Semmemnon retaking Darkhold.
Makes you wonder that Faerun is a hotbed of explosives just waiting to be detonated eh? |
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
1103 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2003 : 18:19:03
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And i'd like so much that it explodes!
What stories we could have with a new widespread conflict in faerun and this time it could longer and more difficult to know who is the villain, and who is the "traditional good guy". |
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Leona
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 May 2003 : 02:12:14
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Originally posted by zemd
And i'd like so much that it explodes!
What stories we could have with a new widespread conflict in faerun and this time it could longer and more difficult to know who is the villain, and who is the "traditional good guy".
In this case, Khelben and the Moonstars fits the perfect role of the above mentioned. We all know the extreme measures Khelben will take to preserve the Balance. |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2003 : 08:32:48
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Well, I forsee a major upcoming battle between Mystra and Shar (which Shar cannot hope to win) regarding their clashing magical portfolios. Needless to say, I se nothing but trouble since the Shadow Weave went public, and I sense that **** is gonna go down, to put it bluntly.
Beyond that, I also can forsee a Godswar possibly occuring soon, which would be ten times worse than the Time of Troubles. The Godswar would be sparked, I believe, by clashes between Shar and Mystra, Bane and Cyric, Kelemvor and Cyric, and the possible reappearance of Myrkul (which would suck). |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2003 : 09:18:12
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Why would the reappearance of Myrkul be so bad, Edain?.
He was one of my favorite deities - so much so, that for my home FR campaign, he was never actually destroyed in the ToT just demoted to a demi-god status, although part of his portfolio was lost to Kelemvor as official FR material states (I think I said somewhere that a few things in my FR campaign were a little different).
Could you perhaps elaborate on why you think it would be so bad?.
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2003 : 21:07:01
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| Well, for starters he'll try and win back the portfolio of the dead and lose miserably. But beyond that his niche has been filled by a variety of new dieties, to the point that if he reappeared, it would take about is seconds for a couple of the eviler powers to gang up and destroy him. Now, that may seem fairly simple, but I firmly believe that Myrkul would be more than capable of starting something before he got himself utterly obliterated. Also, I am not a fan of the God of the Dead being evil, it just doesn't fit. I believe that a LN God fo the Dead is the only way to go, but that's my opinion. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 May 2003 : 07:15:17
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Actually Edain I agree with you about a God of the Dead being LN instead of evil. One of the reasons I kept Myrkul in place in my home campaign was for exactly this reason. I had originally intended the fallen Myrkul to hold the portfolio of only evil and chaotic dead, Kelemvor being responsible for everything else. This worked at the time, because my altered Planescape cosmology was a great help in defining a different Realms cosmology for the deities.
But back to the reason for a lawful neutral representation of a God of the Dead. I believe that since death is a natural part of ones life, it should be represented as LN or even just neutral complete rather than evil, because death should not be seen in the manner that some campaign settings describe it.
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Minardil
Acolyte
Finland
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Posted - 24 May 2003 : 18:00:57
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| There are many great threats. One is nowcoming war of gods, where evil deities with something in their tooth (Bane, Shar, etc) will form an alliance, and good gods will respond. Also, war of all races upon all Faerūn would be a disaster, and it could be a result or cause of war of gods. Big threat would also be the villain of my FR campaign, who tries to open permanent gates to lower planes and let devils and demons loose over Faerūn. We're living interesting times, friends... |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2003 : 05:23:10
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| Except, one thing Minardil, evil deities do not get along. Do not think for a minute that the evil deities will be able ally for long, if at all. If they do ally, they will start backstabbing each other at the first possible convenience. Deities like Shar, Cyric, and Talos are rather Chaotic and opportunistic, they do not stay in alliances longer than they have to (and their allies often come out worse for wear, look at what happened to Mask after he allied whith Cyric). Now, I am not saying the evil deities could not start a Godswar and do serious damage, but it would be unlikely any ally. |
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jul 2003 : 08:17:23
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
Well, for starters he'll try and win back the portfolio of the dead and lose miserably. But beyond that his niche has been filled by a variety of new dieties, to the point that if he reappeared, it would take about is seconds for a couple of the eviler powers to gang up and destroy him. Now, that may seem fairly simple, but I firmly believe that Myrkul would be more than capable of starting something before he got himself utterly obliterated. Also, I am not a fan of the God of the Dead being evil, it just doesn't fit. I believe that a LN God fo the Dead is the only way to go, but that's my opinion.
If Mykrul came back, it could be at the expense of lesser dieties like Velsharoon and Talona rather than Kelemvor. I can picture Mykrul reborn as the god of Undeath, decay, and disease. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 07 Jul 2003 : 17:31:41
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Originally posted by lowtech
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
Well, for starters he'll try and win back the portfolio of the dead and lose miserably. But beyond that his niche has been filled by a variety of new dieties, to the point that if he reappeared, it would take about is seconds for a couple of the eviler powers to gang up and destroy him. Now, that may seem fairly simple, but I firmly believe that Myrkul would be more than capable of starting something before he got himself utterly obliterated. Also, I am not a fan of the God of the Dead being evil, it just doesn't fit. I believe that a LN God fo the Dead is the only way to go, but that's my opinion.
If Mykrul came back, it could be at the expense of lesser dieties like Velsharoon and Talona rather than Kelemvor. I can picture Mykrul reborn as the god of Undeath, decay, and disease.
VERY good point!
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2003 : 15:04:49
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| In my own personal opinion, the biggest threat to Faerun are people wishing to keep the status quo. I personally am a product of the western twentieth century, and my RPG encounters most often reflect that. That stated, allow me to explain my position. In the Icewind Dale collectors edition, one of Drizzt's journal entries mentions an encounter with a Gondish Priest in a tavern. Drizzt was appalled by his ignorance about magical medieval life. I would like to think that I am not ignorant in such matters. As such, I think that magic, however integral to Faerun, is to powerful for its own good. The slow rise of technology will eventually gain steam, (Pardon the pun) and inevitably surpass magic in occurance. This is, however, assuming that there will be no jihads against technologists by wizards and clerics. Remember too much of anything is a bad thing. Magic needs to be scaled down. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2003 : 12:34:04
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| I haven't heard of that game before, but Word of Blake jihad has quite the negative conotation. Perhaps technology and magic are both things that threaten the very fabric of the world. Shucks. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Oct 2003 : 05:08:17
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That is essentially right.
The Word of Blake (as part of their interpretation of the words of Jerome Blake) wished to halt the technological and military progress made by each of the Successor States of the Inner Sphere. There were other underlying reasons for the 'crusade' against progress, but this seemed to be their one main area of focus, making sure that at the end of their 'attacks', most of the worlds would be reduced to feudal societies.
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Jaysen Darclyght
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 12:39:38
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Anyone who wishes to stamp out progress is a villian. That person should be sent to Nuremburg immediately to stand for gross crimes against humanity. But seriously, any PC or NPC in any FR campaign who tries to keep the status quo, or even send the planet back a few decades is wrong. Such things are wrong. Whats done is done. It may have been a mistake on Salvatores part to give the pirates a cannon, but hey, thats progress. In a couple hundred FR years, they will be more common, and things will evolve with them and the society might very well become unchanged, or become something totally new and interesting.
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 14:05:23
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| to stopp progress is not bad at all, and allowing gunpowder to come to the realms was and is a mistake and villians are not so bad but i think they would rather be the one who further progress, but i do hope progress i stopped. And the worst treat to fauren is hel for some heaven for others |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Nov 2003 : 15:25:43
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Cyric, it's easier (and makes the scroll simpler to read) just to use the 'EDIT' function to alter and/or add more comments to your existing post than to post again with the same text and your additions.
The 'EDIT' function is located at the top of your message reply post. Just click on the icon with the pencil and the paper, and that will allow you to edit your existing posts.
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Worst threat to Faerun?
