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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 03 Feb 2006 :  17:27:42  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I was wondering if anybody knows who the first humans were on Faerun and if it's possible the time period that they arrived. I'm not looking for specific individuals obviously, more like ethnicity/region.

Bluenose
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Posted - 03 Feb 2006 :  18:50:23  Show Profile  Visit Bluenose's Homepage Send Bluenose a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm fairly sure that there's a source claiming humans were on Faerun at the time of the Creator Races, possibly as just one more minor race. But there are a few vague dates for some groups, mostly from the FR Timeline.

The Imaskari start settling the area that's now the Raurin by -8350DR. Their capital city is founded -7975DR. After a plague in -4370DR they import Mulani slaves(from Earth?) to replenish their labour force.

There are humans (presumably Calishite) present when Calimshan is founded c-7800DR.

Jhaamdath is founded c.-5800DR.

A group of human communities unite under the name Illusk in -4274DR.


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Kentinal
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Posted - 03 Feb 2006 :  18:59:29  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some timelines appear to hint that many races were living in caves for a long time perhaps a long time undatable as well. It appears posible that there are lost civilizations as well that nothing remains of.

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  00:19:52  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There were ancient humans that lived in the Yuirwood prior to the arrival of any elves.
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  00:35:13  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
During the Days of Thunder (-35,000 DR to -33,000 DR) we know humans lived in small caves.

There are barbarian clans of tribal humans roaming Keltormir in -14,000 DR.

Humans didn't properly arise until the Age of Proud Peoples between -9,000 DR and -3,000 DR, with the passing of the Dragon and Giant eras to the wayside. Human realms such as Unther and Coramshan arise at this time.

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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  00:41:28  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bluenose

I'm fairly sure that there's a source claiming humans were on Faerun at the time of the Creator Races, possibly as just one more minor race. But there are a few vague dates for some groups, mostly from the FR Timeline.
Serpent Kingdoms lists humans as the last of the Creator Races and the only race not to have established an empire during the Days of Thunder. They did not have their own time until much later... after the Time of Dragons, as I mentioned above.

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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  03:36:23  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the responses!

From the information given in the above responses I need to modify my question a little. What was the first human civilization that acheived a level of magic great enough to have relics/artifacts?

I'm trying to work on a plot line where the PC's discover the location of a historical/magical relic of an ancient human civilization (very brief description obviously). I know Netheril would be the easy one here but I'm looking for something a little different... Right now I'm leaning towards the Imaskari, but for what I'm planning, the older the better.

Thanks again.
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Volo
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  07:01:27  Show Profile  Visit Volo's Homepage Send Volo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jhaamdath is always a good option for a truly ancient civilization, seeing that it was either dying out or already gone before the Seven Cities unified into the earliest form of Netheril. Although, that said, I'm not certain if the human civilizations were really building major magical relics prior to the discovery of the Nether Scrolls.

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 04 Feb 2006 :  18:03:59  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe that Imaskar might be the first human civilization to have powerful magic artificacts. They were the first humans to create extradimensional spaces and they were renowned for their portals.
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quote:
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I believe that Imaskar might be the first human civilization to have powerful magic artificacts. They were the first humans to create extradimensional spaces and they were renowned for their portals.



They were also powerful to keep deities out of Realmspace -- no small accomplishment.

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  01:08:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

They were also powerful to keep deities out of Realmspace -- no small accomplishment.
Being as rabidly "anti-deity" as they were... .

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