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TheRedBard
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  04:48:31  Show Profile  Visit TheRedBard's Homepage Send TheRedBard a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Greetings, I was reading at the WOTC boards and came across someone asking bout warrior type harpers. I was wondering if a monk could qualify too. Perhaps if he followed one of the Harper friendly Gods or something, I was thinking along the lines of Oghma...would that work?

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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  04:58:22  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Although Monk isn't usually the first thing that comes to mind when you think "Harper", there is no reason why they cannot be members of the organization.

The Harpers as a whole tend not to be lawful but it is not prohibited. The Harper Agent PrC has "non-evil" as a requirement and everything else is pretty easy to meet as a monk character...

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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  04:59:19  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Theres a Harper Paladin in Waterdeep so I dont see why you couldnt have LG or LN monk

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Faramicos
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  08:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Precisely... My impression of the group is that they range over a wide spectrum of subclasses...

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  08:34:40  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Faramicos

Precisely... My impression of the group is that they range over a wide spectrum of subclasses...

Traditionally, any class of character can join the Harpers -- as noted in Code of the Harpers.

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Faramicos
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Posted - 30 Jan 2006 :  09:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Precisely. That is also the general idea one gets from reading various novels with the Harpers in them.

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GungHo
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 :  15:45:30  Show Profile  Visit GungHo's Homepage Send GungHo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A Blackguard may have a slightly difficult time.
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Wooly Rupert
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I'm away from my source material at the moment, but I'm pretty certain that membership in the Harpers is restricted to non-evil folks. Khelben might be able to use your blackguard, though...

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The Sage
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Considering that potential PCs wishing to join the Harpers must have an alignment that specifies a "freedom from evil"... I would say that tells us that evil folk are not usually permitted among the Harpers as a whole.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 :  14:04:26  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm away from my source material at the moment, but I'm pretty certain that membership in the Harpers is restricted to non-evil folks. Khelben might be able to use your blackguard, though...



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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm away from my source material at the moment, but I'm pretty certain that membership in the Harpers is restricted to non-evil folks. Khelben might be able to use your blackguard, though...



"Perish the thought, Sir Hamster. Blackguards are just as intractable and inflexible as their paladin counterparts, and they are much harder on the furniture, friends, and the like. Nay, I have as little to do with them as I do with paladins--truth be told, Piergeiron is among the very few with whom I can hold a conversation for long." K



Oh, I wasn't expecting any to pop up among the Tel'Teukiira -- but I could see Khelben manipulating a blackguard into stirring up trouble somewhere, to the benefit of the Moonstars.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm away from my source material at the moment, but I'm pretty certain that membership in the Harpers is restricted to non-evil folks. Khelben might be able to use your blackguard, though...



"Perish the thought, Sir Hamster. Blackguards are just as intractable and inflexible as their paladin counterparts, and they are much harder on the furniture, friends, and the like. Nay, I have as little to do with them as I do with paladins--truth be told, Piergeiron is among the very few with whom I can hold a conversation for long." K



Oh, I wasn't expecting any to pop up among the Tel'Teukiira -- but I could see Khelben manipulating a blackguard into stirring up trouble somewhere, to the benefit of the Moonstars.

Whose to say that he already hasn't done so...

Khelben makes a habit of pulling at the strings of others -- both good and evil -- I would imagine that more than one Blackguard, who thought his ill actions brought some measure of profit to his church, ended up furthering the cause of the Moonstars at some point thanks largely to the plans and designs of our favorite Manipulator Archmage .

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