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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 :  20:40:34  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi,

The Banite cleric in my campaign is looking for a PrC (he don't like the Dreadmaster one in F&P).

He asked me about the Divine Disciple (PGtF) and the Contemplative (CD).

Set aside the complete lack of flavor of the Divine Disciple I have no problem with it, but I find it a bit hard to picture a Banite contemplative.. what do you think ?


Edited by - Skeptic on 22 Jan 2006 20:41:49

Dargoth
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 :  21:34:29  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about a War Priest?

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Fletcher
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Posted - 23 Jan 2006 :  17:18:54  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
church inquisitor from the complete divine?

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Skeptic
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Canada
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Posted - 23 Jan 2006 :  17:44:23  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fletcher

church inquisitor from the complete divine?



Very interesting, would you only change the Detect good / Detect evil for a LE cleric/deity or something else ?

The Force Shape Change would be great for this campaign.

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Fletcher
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Posted - 23 Jan 2006 :  20:53:58  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nah, leave it detect good. There are way too many diabolical uses for that ability.

Using goody types as fall guys.
Knowing when a goody type is trying to infiltrate your orginization.
Knowing who not to trust and who to kill in your organization is very important.

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Skeptic
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Canada
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  15:20:26  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, you're right. In fact, it's strange that the PrC is not already open for LE clerics.
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Snotlord
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  15:59:22  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic



...but I find it a bit hard to picture a Banite contemplative.. what do you think ?




A philsophical deep-thinking cleric of tyranny? It could be very creepy with the right player, if you ask me. If the player has some serious thoughts on how this is supposed to work out let him/her. The characters could turn out really cool, and/or give Banites real depth in you game.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  17:12:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snotlord

quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic



...but I find it a bit hard to picture a Banite contemplative.. what do you think ?




A philsophical deep-thinking cleric of tyranny? It could be very creepy with the right player, if you ask me. If the player has some serious thoughts on how this is supposed to work out let him/her. The characters could turn out really cool, and/or give Banites real depth in you game.



I could readily see such a character (most likely an NPC) in more of an advisory position -- the proverbial power behind the throne, rather than ruling openly.

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Skeptic
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Canada
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  17:27:11  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snotlord

A philsophical deep-thinking cleric of tyranny? It could be very creepy with the right player, if you ask me.



Shiver about Snotlord's idea... but problem is the player prefer to smash all with his Morning Star and want a PrC for some "cool abilities"

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Snotlord
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  17:45:50  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its a shame really. I've seen a couple of great evil power-behind-the-throne characters, and they always turn games in unexpected, fun, directions.

A Warpriest sounds more appropriate, but I am not one to judge what is the right motivations for taking a prestige class. There is nothing wrong about looking for cool abilities. Steam Venters are as welcome at my gaming table as Role Players. Also, sometimes people change their characters to fit the cool abilities, instead for picking a class that fits the character.

Edited by - Snotlord on 24 Jan 2006 17:55:59
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  21:42:44  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snotlord

quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic



...but I find it a bit hard to picture a Banite contemplative.. what do you think ?




A philsophical deep-thinking cleric of tyranny? It could be very creepy with the right player, if you ask me. If the player has some serious thoughts on how this is supposed to work out let him/her. The characters could turn out really cool, and/or give Banites real depth in you game.

What you just described here is Semmemmon. Swap his wizard levels for the cleric/contemplative progression you just mentioned, then keep Semmemmon's personality intact, and you've got your power behind and in front of the throne.
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Fletcher
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USA
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  23:18:08  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
[>>>snip!!<<<
What you just described here is Semmemmon. Swap his wizard levels for the cleric/contemplative progression you just mentioned, then keep Semmemmon's personality intact, and you've got your power behind and in front of the throne.



Oooh! Good point. I'm going to have to look at my Uber-villain cleric of Bane. Right now he is just an amorphous blob...perhaps i now have a PrC for my campaign as well!

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