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Aulnil
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 :  15:38:58  Show Profile  Visit Aulnil's Homepage Send Aulnil a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Quick question. I'm sure I've read some info years ago about it, but how have the change in maps/distances from 2e to 3e effect peoples games and realms lore? I don't have any qualms with the changes except in the Moonsea area; it's almost like a different world.

Kuje
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 :  16:37:33  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It didn't effect me because I use the old maps, because I like the extra space.

But basically WOTC cut out a lot of the "unneeded" areas and shifted the continent northwest with the new maps, causing some lands to mostly disappear or other landmarks to switch rivers, mountains, etc.

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Aulnil
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 :  17:26:32  Show Profile  Visit Aulnil's Homepage Send Aulnil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I do as well, but looking at the map of the Moonsea as it is in 3e...whoa.
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 :  23:46:19  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I prefer using the older maps also... as they have a sense of "Forgotten-ness" about them.

As for the 3e maps... Kuje has it down. Also, Erlkazar was one of the "realms" to experience changes in location between editions. I'll let Steven explain -

"Re: places: a novel free zone erlkazar
No, it's still there, whether or not it gets acknowledged on the map or in the Lands of Intrigue listing in the FRCS.
At least it's still there in my mind. ;) They just crunched it all into smaller space (and I wasn't around or paying attention when they did this with the main maps of Faerun, so I don't even know the logic or explanation behind the changes).
Just remember that world maps for our own world changed multitudinous times over the centuries, so I'd say use whatever maps make you happiest with the Realms and be done with the rest.
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When I do have to use 3e maps though... I always recall these words from Steven (again ) about their "poor" detailing -

"Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."

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martynq
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Posted - 22 Jan 2006 :  08:39:55  Show Profile  Visit martynq's Homepage Send martynq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I continue to use the old maps... simply because I have the Electronic FR Atlas and that is far too useful a resource to simply ignore because someone wanted to fit the map of the continent on a single piece of paper.

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Finland
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Posted - 24 Jan 2006 :  17:31:02  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aulnil

I don't have any qualms with the changes except in the Moonsea area; it's almost like a different world.



If you want a 3e map of the Moonsea here you go http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/pg20030226a

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Lysander
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Posted - 25 Jan 2006 :  01:53:42  Show Profile  Visit Lysander's Homepage Send Lysander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I prefer using the older maps also... as they have a sense of "Forgotten-ness" about them.

As for the 3e maps... Kuje has it down. Also, Erlkazar was one of the "realms" to experience changes in location between editions. I'll let Steven explain -

"Re: places: a novel free zone erlkazar
No, it's still there, whether or not it gets acknowledged on the map or in the Lands of Intrigue listing in the FRCS.
At least it's still there in my mind. ;) They just crunched it all into smaller space (and I wasn't around or paying attention when they did this with the main maps of Faerun, so I don't even know the logic or explanation behind the changes).
Just remember that world maps for our own world changed multitudinous times over the centuries, so I'd say use whatever maps make you happiest with the Realms and be done with the rest.
Steven It is never too late to be what you might have been. (George Elliot/Mary Ann Evans)"

When I do have to use 3e maps though... I always recall these words from Steven (again ) about their "poor" detailing -

"Chalk it up to Sembian mapmakers or something to overlook their existence, that's all."



One could always let the players see the 3.xE map while using the Real maps of the Realms as the DM map. Then you blame the map on the blasted Sembians.

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