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                | sushisauceSeeker
 
  
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  05:20:11           
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           	| In D&D or FR who is your favorite diety? AND why
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                | Ranaghar TsaranLearned Scribe
 
   
 
                 Poland133 Posts
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  13:19:30         
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                      | I'm a follower of Mielikki, so She is the best goddess for me. Why? Well...She represent all I love. Nature, animals, elves...  |  
                      | "Do not be afraid of greatness. Some achieve greatness, some are born great, and some have greatness thrust upon them..."
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                | zemdMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  13:49:48       
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                      | Mystra! She can prevent nearly everyone to cast spell. (nearly because Shar created the Shadow Weave). Moreover, i think that she can understand mortals more than a lot of deities because she was mortal.
 I also like Tymora and Lathander.
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                | EchonSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  15:50:24         
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                      | There has been a topic similar to this previously and my answer is the same as before: Shar. Other deities of interest include Cyric and Oghma. Perhaps my favourite god would be a combination of Shar and Oghma even though I am aware that they contadict at certain levels. 
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                      | "If others had not been foolish, we should be so."
 
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                      | Edited by - Echon on 16 Feb 2003  15:51:08
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                | BookwyrmGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  18:15:33         
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                      | Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Shar, who is darkness for the sake of darkness, and Oghma, who is knowledge for the sake of knowledge. I suppose there COULD be an evil counterpart of Oghma as far as his portfolio goes (i.e., dark knowledge), but yes, I'd have to say they contradict each other. In fact, they're almost completely opposite anyway -- I say almost because the true opposite of a god of knowledge (and therefore truth) would be Cyric, god of lies. |  
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                | EchonSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  19:42:55         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Bookwyrm
 
 Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Shar, who is darkness for the sake of darkness, and Oghma, who is knowledge for the sake of knowledge. I suppose there COULD be an evil counterpart of Oghma as far as his portfolio goes (i.e., dark knowledge), but yes, I'd have to say they contradict each other. In fact, they're almost completely opposite anyway -- I say almost because the true opposite of a god of knowledge (and therefore truth) would be Cyric, god of lies.
 
 
 
 I would argue that Shar is as much an opposition to Oghma as Cyric because a part of her portfolio is secrets, the hiding of knowledge. I do not know what is the most opposed to knowledge of these two: lies or non-knowledge.
 
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                      | "If others had not been foolish, we should be so."
 
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                      | Edited by - Echon on 16 Feb 2003  19:44:32
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                | zemdMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 16 Feb 2003 :  21:14:10       
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                      | You're both right, isn't lying similar to the hiding of knowledge?! 
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                | lowtechLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 17 Feb 2003 :  00:44:24         
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                      | Evil gods of knowledge hoard knowledge and utilize it towards selfish ends.  An example would be Diirinka of the Derro or the late Maanzecorian(sic) of the Illithids.  Acquiring knowledge and hiding that same knowledge from others would characterize a Shar/Oghma combo.  Perhaps if Shar seduced Oghma in the guise of a lover, like morrigan did to King Author... |  
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                | Drummer BoySenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 17 Feb 2003 :  00:46:56         
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                      | Well, as I believe I mentioned in another topic, I think my favorite deity would be Mielikki, simply because I agree with her morals and things like that that have been menioned in the Drizzt books. |  
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                | BookwyrmGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 17 Feb 2003 :  02:30:41         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by lowtech
 
 Perhaps if Shar seduced Oghma in the guise of a lover, like morrigan did to King Author...
 
 
 
 Wooo! Wouldn't that cause a stir in the Realms!
 
 Anyway, I think that the true opposite of knowledge would be lies; non-knowledge, as Echon put it, is just the absence of knowledge. Lies, on the other hand, are attempts at missinformation. I could be wrong (not having read any moduals, I'm not exactly as up to date on Realms matters as some of my fellow scribes), but I believe that Shar doesn't attempt to spread lies and counter-truths. Cyric, however, tries to do two dozen acts of such before breakfast. (Cyriad, anyone?)
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                | Feanor_KarnilLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Feb 2003 :  14:27:09         
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                      | I favor Silvanus, Oghma, and Torm. But the topic title says which is best, I don't think any deity is the 'best' its just the matter of good and evil. |  
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                | Ranaghar TsaranLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Feb 2003 :  19:25:31         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Drummer Boy
 
 Well, as I believe I mentioned in another topic, I think my favorite deity would be Mielikki, simply because I agree with her morals and things like that that have been menioned in the Drizzt books.
 
 
 I think we'll become very good friends Drummer Boy.
  May She always be with you...
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                | KlarthAilerionAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 18 Feb 2003 :  20:03:27         
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                      | Oghma is my favorite diety.. who knows better than him?  |  
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                | ElminsterAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Feb 2003 :  06:42:31         
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                      | As my chosen character is...well me  i would say Mystra 
 but i also like Torm
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                      | Enter no conflict against no fanatics unless you can defuse them. Oppose a religion with another religion only if your proofs (miracles) are irrefutable or if you can mesh in a way that the fanatics accept you as God-inspired. This has long been the barrier to science assuming a mantle of divine revelation. Science is so obviously man-made. Fanatics (and many are fanatic about one thing or another) must know where you stand, but more importantly, must recognise who whispers in your ear.
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                | JerockAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Feb 2003 :  18:26:10         
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                      | Favorite Diety
 
 Well that is a hard one to answer but if giving only one choice i must say Lady Mystra..
 
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                | EchonSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Feb 2003 :  20:16:49         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Bookwyrm
 Anyway, I think that the true opposite of knowledge would be lies; non-knowledge, as Echon put it, is just the absence of knowledge. Lies, on the other hand, are attempts at missinformation. I could be wrong (not having read any moduals, I'm not exactly as up to date on Realms matters as some of my fellow scribes), but I believe that Shar doesn't attempt to spread lies and counter-truths. Cyric, however, tries to do two dozen acts of such before breakfast. (Cyriad, anyone?)
 
 
 
 That is quite a good point, I must admit. However, my argument is that knowledge does not necesarily entail truth. Lies can be knowledge as well, simply false knowledge, but does not mean that you do not know anything at all if what you know is a lie. Thus I hold that the absence, the hiding of knowledge, is the opposition of knowledge.
 
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                | Sadonayerah OdrydinLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 20 Feb 2003 :  05:55:59         
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                      | My favorites dieties are Silvanus, Mielikki, Lathander, and almost any elven god/dess I didn't mention.  (there's a lot.)  except the evil ones...I don't do evil....  anything from true neutral all the way up to Lawful good.  Lol.  I'm such a goody goody.... |  
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                | Targon MoonriseLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 08 Mar 2003 :  04:59:17         
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                      | I would have to say Helm, Mystra and Lord Ao. Ao could be called a god, I think. |  
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                | MidNightAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 08 Mar 2003 :  15:18:59         
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                      | My favorite deity is absolutely Mystra. Not only is the weave extremely marvellous, she herself is, too. Like zemd said, she is the Goddess closest to the mortal realm. She's the one who of all things care about mortals. Now, sometimes that's also her weakness. Because she worries about the mortals of Faerun so much, she looses hold on what may be more important for Faerun. Thus, some decisions she made didn't work out that well because of this. But on the other hand: this makes her Mystra, this is really who she is, what she stands for. And I think it's great.
 Magic has always fascinated me and how Mystra powers the weave..That in itself is the synonym for beauty. Magic is an art.
 
 At least, this is my humble opinion
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                | Aust GrimshadowAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  14:04:23         
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                      | "Lies engulf the drow in fear and mistrust, refute friendship at the tip of a Lolth blessed sword.  The hatred and ambition fostered by these amoral tenets are the doom of my people, a weakness they perceive as strength.  The result is a paralyzing existence that the drow call the edge of readiness." -Drizzt Do'Urden
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                | Drummer BoySenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  14:43:00         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Ranaghar Tsaran
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Drummer Boy
 
 Well, as I believe I mentioned in another topic, I think my favorite deity would be Mielikki, simply because I agree with her morals and things like that that have been menioned in the Drizzt books.
 
 
 I think we'll become very good friends Drummer Boy.
  May She always be with you...
 
 
 
 Yes, perhaps we will. May She always be with you as well.
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                | ArtalisSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  16:20:46       
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                      | Personally Mystra is my favorite. In concept at least... 
 I think magic is the thing that makes the realms truly unique and wonderful. She IS the Mistress Of The Weave after all...
 
 However I suppose it bears asking, favorite for what?  If you were to be stranded on a desert Isle with a diety the choice might be different. Or if you might have to rely on them for something you would want someone you could trust...and so on.
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  16:23:33         
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Artalis
 I think magic is the thing that makes the realms truly unique and wonderful.
 
 
 That does not seperate the Forgotten Realms from any other campaign setting.
 
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                | ArtalisSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  16:34:50       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Echon
 
 
 quote:Originally posted by Artalis
 I think magic is the thing that makes the realms truly unique and wonderful.
 
 
 That does not seperate the Forgotten Realms from any other campaign setting.
 
 -Echon
 
 
 
 True enough I suppose, but I didn't see a need to.
 
 The feel of magic in the Realms is different than in other campaign settings.  I like FR magic the best out of Middle Earth,Dragonlance or any of the others I have played in. When I say it makes the Realms unique and special I refer to that feeling. Magic is what I like best about FR and D&D in general, so I suppose it follows that I would pick the Goddess of Magic as my favorite.
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                | zemdMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  16:54:08       
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                      | Mystra is also a more 'human' goddess (i agree at the beginning of her existence she was a little bit cold in my opinion). I feel close to her, more than any other deity. Futhermore, Midnight is my favorite character so... And the way magic acts is less that's-the-way-it-works-and-that's-all than other stteings. Thanx to Mystra.
 
 Futhermore, we can't speak of Mystra without Shar. Even if i love Mystra, i also like Shar which gives a counter power (can you understand?) that is quite fun
 
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                | lowtechLearned Scribe
 
   
 
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                      |  Posted - 10 Mar 2003 :  21:37:10         
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                      | I like Shar's style, but I've always been puzzled by the appeal of her dogma of hopelessnes and the pursuit of non-awareness.  I can understand the appeal of most other evil gods, but that's just too far removed from any aspect of my personality for me to understand. |  
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                | EdialAcolyte
 
 
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  07:50:39         
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                      | i will always be a silverstar of the goddess selune because she is what/how she is... also her dislike for bigotry is appealing to one such as i.
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                      | Edial Lyonson, proud Silverstar of Selune.
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                | branmakmuffinSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  22:04:29         
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                      | Selune. 
 Moon goddesses are cool.
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                | zemdMaster of Realmslore
 
     
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  22:06:25       
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                      | quote:Originally posted by branmakmuffin
 
 Selune.
 
 Moon goddesses are cool.
 
 
 
 That's what i call a short answer, can you more ... err precise?
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                | branmakmuffinSenior Scribe
 
    
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  23:33:31         
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                      | zemd: 
 
 quote:That's what i call a short answer, can you more ... err precise?
 
 
 Moonlight on a night with a full moon is quite enjoyable.
 
 Moon goddesses are often associated with mysterious stuff (sometimes magic), and maybe a bit of "darkness", but I don't think the moon is usually associated with evil, in western Eurpoean mythology anyway. The moon and moon goddesses seem more multidimensional than other deities.
 
 Athena was always my favorite Greek deity when I read Greek myths in my younger days, but Artemis was a close second. There were never enough stories about her.
 
 If there were a FR deity I considered as Athena-like as Selune is Artemis-like, that one would probably be my favorite FR deity. Tempus is no Athena, though. He's probably an OK Ares.
 
 
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                | BookwyrmGreat Reader
 
      
 
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                      |  Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  23:42:31         
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                      | I never liked Ares. Hephestius was actually my favorite. He was the guy who made all the Cool Gear.  |  
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