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Walking in the Light
Acolyte
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 Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 04:28:47
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Well ......after my last post didn’t workout I have redone this one in hopes of better results.
Sage said I should dig up some clasic posts and work from there
yet with 668 pages I thought maybe starting fresh I could let others see what I liked and get to know the new kid on the block...me  And with just some minor changes to my topic I think it works.
Going by what this says
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Discuss Forgotten Realms novels in this area. Post your reviews and any thing you wish to say about official novels of the Realms Please warn of any spoilers at the start of your post
As far as I can tell no spoilers but a pretty good review by me 
{A} REALMS OF MAGIC
This is a wonderfully done collection of short stories in one book by many talented writers.
Two of them stand out for me they are called the Magic Thief by Mark Anthony and Gunne Runner by Roger E. More
Being someone who enjoys playing a Multi-Class Wizard/Cleric its no surprise that I liked these two.
Without giving the story away they both capture the deep inner feel of what Wizards go through in their lives.
The comfort level of their surroundings and deep need for companionship, security and the magic that they depend on.
The writers in both did an excellent job of mystery and tension when creating their backgrounds ....A must have book for Magical adventurers
{B} REALMS #2
This book was written by Ed Greenwood and is another grouping of fun short stories.
I’m still reading this but one the stories that pop out is called Bloodbound.
You get the inside look at a slave of a Redwizard named Tace and her daily struggle to survive. Tace is a young girl who uses her wits and pleasing eye of her slave master to deal with the many dangers of a slave in Thay.
{C} ELMINSTERS DAUGHTER
I’m almost done reading this yet I must say its one of Mr. Greenwood better written books. The background on the main and minor characters really come to life and the fast pace of the books compliments the over all story. I would say more but have yet to finish...
{D} CLERIC QUINTET {Collector’s Edition}
Written by R.A Salvatore
I think that one reason I liked this grand behemoth of more than 1000pages was that
my Characters that I create often struggle with the spiritual aspects of their lives.
For example Agudo is a Multi Class Cleric/Wizard with his flamboyant looks that says Mage all over to the point of gaudiness.
Yet his manners are that of a well educated loving healer of the Priesthood who must respond to people and things that reflect his faith.
Quintet has some what the same struggles.
For as a Cleric who is not a Wizard yet Quintet sees things in a logical manner and must struggle with his faith of the heart and mind. Many wonderful characters that come to life such as a Lady Monk and Druid Dwarf that add spice to Quintet life.
I think a must read for many who enjoy epic struggles.
{E} CRUSADE {Empire trilogy #3}
For me the mixing of Forgotten Realm Lore and our real world creates wonderful stories.
This is a good example of such a mixing.
The Realm Cormyr is far from the dangers of the approaching Tuigan Horse warriors and yet King Azoun sees something bigger at hand.
It reminds me of many points in history some around the Roman area and even the Modern times that we live like Iraq and Afghanistan
In this book those for the Azoun Crusade and those against can in many ways be seen to be right for such conflicting beliefs.
Brings to life many quandaries we must deal with in life and the consequences that they bring
A good book for a history lover
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From the Book Halfling Sayings by Agudo
A Lion Tamer once said, if ya need an illusionist for thy circus then call a Gnome
But if thy circus needs a clown send in the Halflings
Chapter 5-The town of Gullykin on the Sword Coast
By Lady Silvin Lionheart, speaking to Agudo in the year of the Comical Halfling
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Edited by - Walking in the Light on 30 Nov 2005 06:43:24
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Rory
Seeker
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 06:54:43
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| Did you read the two before Crusade? |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 13:34:35
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Mon Dieu, why the huge font size? Also, isn't this... the third thread you've made with the same content? (The first in the bookclub, the second right here and now locked.)
Anyway, the Cleric Quintet...
It provided me with a source of considerable amusement. No, not at the intended comic reliefs, ala the Bouldershoulder brothers, but at things like--
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Through it all, Prince Elbereth, tall and painfully straight, with hair the color of a raven's wings and eyes the silver of moonbeams on a rushing river, showed no emotion whatsoever.
The choice of name has, unfortunately, affixed forever in my mind the association with this Elbereth. So my mental image of him is like this: a slender Orlando Bloom with a wig and prosthetic ears elf, with manly arms and manly broad chest plus an expression of cool disdain on his chiseled visage; yea, every bit a haughty elven prince. In drag. Maybe clad in a pristine gown of "glimmering stars" (to go with his moonbeam eyes) and crowned with a mithral/mithril circlet encrusted with diamonds. Doing embroidery.
I also find it vaguely curious that he ties a multitude of tiny bells to his horse and is described as "painfully straight." The lady doth protest too much?
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A moment later, they were together. The song played again in Cadderly's mind. No, rather, he felt it, thrumming with urgency through every facet of his body, guiding him through every subtle motion, and convincing him that nothing had ever been so right.
Cadderly's mind whirled through a dizzying jumble of thoughts and emotions. He thought of Danica bearing his child, and considered the implications of mortality.
Most of all, Cadderly focused his thoughts on Danica, his soul mate, and he loved her all the more. Perhaps once she had been his shelter, , but only because he had made that her role. Now, Cadderly had revealed his vulnerability, his deepest fears, and Danica had accepted them, and him, with all her heart, and with the sincere desire to help him resolve them.
When I first read this, I put the book down, gaped, and spent the next few moments giggling like a maniac. It's extremely maudlin ("soul mate"?), but that's not what made me laugh so much. Now, I've never been male, and I don't claim to be psychic, but who actually thinks like this during sex? "Oh, hey, I might just impregnate her. I will now ponder the philosophical implications of the reproductive process." That strikes me as incredibly creepy.
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Later, as Danica slept, Cadderly rose from the bed and lit a single candle on his table, beside the Tome of Universal Harmony. Not bothering to dress, he looked back to Danica on the bed, and felt a surge of love course through his veins. Strengthened by that security, Cadderly sat down and opened the book, hopeful that, in light of this night's revelations, he would hear the song a different way.
Insert tab A into slot B == religious epiphany!
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"Do you not remember?" the wizard asked, and his voice sounded so very sweet to the stunned young priest.
Cadderly blinked his eyes open, regarded the man and his unthreatening, resigned pose.
Aballister crooked his arms as though he were cradling a baby. "I remember holding you close," he cooed. "I would sing to you -- how much more precious you were to me since your mother had died in childbirth!"
Cadderly felt the strength draining from his legs.
"Do you remember that?" the wizard asked gently. "Of course you do. There are some things ingrained deeply within our thoughts, within our hearts. You cannot forget those moments we had together, you and I, father and son."
Aballister's words wove a myriad of images in Cadderly's mind, images of his earliest days, the serenity and security he had felt in his father's arms. How wonderful things had been for him then! How filled with love and perfect harmony!
My first thought on reading this was: "Huh? Homoerotic incestuous subtext?" |
Edited by - Winterfox on 30 Nov 2005 13:35:45 |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 14:43:20
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Mon Dieu, why the huge font size? Also, isn't this... the third thread you've made with the same content? (The first in the bookclub, the second right here and now locked.)
Anyway, the Cleric Quintet...
It provided me with a source of considerable amusement. No, not at the intended comic reliefs, ala the Bouldershoulder brothers, but at things like--
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Through it all, Prince Elbereth, tall and painfully straight, with hair the color of a raven's wings and eyes the silver of moonbeams on a rushing river, showed no emotion whatsoever.
The choice of name has, unfortunately, affixed forever in my mind the association with this Elbereth. So my mental image of him is like this: a slender Orlando Bloom with a wig and prosthetic ears elf, with manly arms and manly broad chest plus an expression of cool disdain on his chiseled visage; yea, every bit a haughty elven prince. In drag. Maybe clad in a pristine gown of "glimmering stars" (to go with his moonbeam eyes) and crowned with a mithral/mithril circlet encrusted with diamonds. Doing embroidery.
I also find it vaguely curious that he ties a multitude of tiny bells to his horse and is described as "painfully straight." The lady doth protest too much?
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A moment later, they were together. The song played again in Cadderly's mind. No, rather, he felt it, thrumming with urgency through every facet of his body, guiding him through every subtle motion, and convincing him that nothing had ever been so right.
Cadderly's mind whirled through a dizzying jumble of thoughts and emotions. He thought of Danica bearing his child, and considered the implications of mortality.
Most of all, Cadderly focused his thoughts on Danica, his soul mate, and he loved her all the more. Perhaps once she had been his shelter, , but only because he had made that her role. Now, Cadderly had revealed his vulnerability, his deepest fears, and Danica had accepted them, and him, with all her heart, and with the sincere desire to help him resolve them.
When I first read this, I put the book down, gaped, and spent the next few moments giggling like a maniac. It's extremely maudlin ("soul mate"?), but that's not what made me laugh so much. Now, I've never been male, and I don't claim to be psychic, but who actually thinks like this during sex? "Oh, hey, I might just impregnate her. I will now ponder the philosophical implications of the reproductive process." That strikes me as incredibly creepy.
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Later, as Danica slept, Cadderly rose from the bed and lit a single candle on his table, beside the Tome of Universal Harmony. Not bothering to dress, he looked back to Danica on the bed, and felt a surge of love course through his veins. Strengthened by that security, Cadderly sat down and opened the book, hopeful that, in light of this night's revelations, he would hear the song a different way.
Insert tab A into slot B == religious epiphany!
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"Do you not remember?" the wizard asked, and his voice sounded so very sweet to the stunned young priest.
Cadderly blinked his eyes open, regarded the man and his unthreatening, resigned pose.
Aballister crooked his arms as though he were cradling a baby. "I remember holding you close," he cooed. "I would sing to you -- how much more precious you were to me since your mother had died in childbirth!"
Cadderly felt the strength draining from his legs.
"Do you remember that?" the wizard asked gently. "Of course you do. There are some things ingrained deeply within our thoughts, within our hearts. You cannot forget those moments we had together, you and I, father and son."
Aballister's words wove a myriad of images in Cadderly's mind, images of his earliest days, the serenity and security he had felt in his father's arms. How wonderful things had been for him then! How filled with love and perfect harmony!
My first thought on reading this was: "Huh? Homoerotic incestuous subtext?"
Winterfox - that was awesome! I remember thinking those same things. However, the way you just put it had me laughing out loud!
To be fair, the Cleric Quintet were some of the first books RAS gave to WotC - you have to allow some allowances.
And let me be the first male to say, I've never pondered the philosophical implications of pregnancy during sex. But, Cadderly is an intense kind of priest, and of Deneir. Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Walking in the Light
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 : 19:37:24
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Hey ya Rory!
I have yet to read the first two.
Im hoping soon though just need to read through the others mounds of books sitting around.
Well Winterfox ......wow!
Must say you and CrennenFaerieBane see things in a jovial way.
Winterfox
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Mon Dieu, why the huge font size? Also, isn't this... the third thread you've made with the same content? (The first in the bookclub, the second right here and now locked.)
Well as far as this post being found in other area lol
Like I said missed the Novel  section so I reposted here
Then Sage felt it would be better find old posts for it
I believe do to the way it was written.
So I looked around and thought it maybe best just to edit my post
Just to introduce myself and let those who cared to see what I liked in books.
Now for a review of some of the fun reply’s by Winterfox and Crennen
Quote From the Novel Cleric Quintet.
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......Cadderly's mind whirled through a dizzying jumble of thoughts and emotions. He thought of Danica bearing his child, and considered the implications of mortality.
Winterfox
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When I first read this, I put the book down, gaped, and spent the next few moments giggling like a maniac. It's extremely maudlin ("soul mate"?), but that's not what made me laugh so much. Now, I've never been male, and I don't claim to be psychic, but who actually thinks like this during sex? "Oh, hey, I might just impregnate her. I will now ponder the philosophical implications of the reproductive process." That strikes me as incredibly creepy.
CrennenFaerieBane
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And let me be the first male to say, I've never pondered the philosophical implications of pregnancy during sex. But, Cadderly is an intense kind of priest, and of Deneir. Maybe that has something to do with it?
In many ways Crennenin right about the spiritual aspect affecting the main characters views on lovemaking.
Also the Forgotten Realms is set in age of slow communication and travel.
Most people don’t travel far from the place of there birth.
The culture of your family, town and religion have great effects on ones action.
This was true for Quintet for most of life he stayed in the monastery
So yes I could see why the writer had the Quintet feel all the emotions of fatherhood.
Do to being with the first woman he ever had sexual contact with.
Quote From the Novel Cleric Quintet.
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Aballister crooked his arms as though he were cradling a baby. "I remember holding you close," he cooed. "I would sing to you -- how much more precious you were to me since your mother had died in childbirth!".......... Aballister's words wove a myriad of images in Cadderly's mind, images of his earliest days, the serenity and security he had felt in his father's arms. How wonderful things had been for him then! How filled with love and perfect harmony!
Winterfox
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My first thought on reading this was: "Huh? Homoerotic incestuous subtext?"
Hmmm lol 
I don’t know about Homoerotic incestuous subtext
But the (perfect harmony) that the main Character was speaking of is a constant in the book.
Music of the words Quintet hears in his religious books and personal faith is an example of that harmony
He struggles to find his faith in the book and that also shown in his need of family.
The feelings he has of security that he longs for is represented in his Father lost time together.
Thanks for all the reply’s hope to hear more and see ya around
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From the Book Halfling Sayings by Agudo
A Lion Tamer once said, if ya need an illusionist for thy circus then call a Gnome
But if thy circus needs a clown send in the Halflings
Chapter 5-The town of Gullykin on the Sword Coast
By Lady Silvin Lionheart, speaking to Agudo in the year of the Comical Halfling
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Edited by - Walking in the Light on 30 Nov 2005 22:04:10 |
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Rory
Seeker
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Posted - 01 Dec 2005 : 22:06:48
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| Empires is an odd trilogy. There is no guarantee that you would like all three. Each book has a different author and a different perspective. Horselords is written from the Tuigans perspective, and Dragonwall, the Shou Lung. I loved the beginnings of Crusades when the Tuigan invade Thay. That was really wild. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Dec 2005 : 21:57:28
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| Winterfox's review of the Cleric Quintet is amusing, as always. And frankly, I pretty much agree with it. Much of that series left with with a feeling of "eh". And In Sylvan Shadows was pretty much all combat and fighting, with very little character development. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Ethriel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Dec 2005 : 23:04:55
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| I was near to banging my head on a wall after some of the stuff Winterfox described...that wasn't even the half of it! The Chaos Curse was probably the most grievous offender... |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 : 00:08:16
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Originally posted by Ethriel
I was near to banging my head on a wall after some of the stuff Winterfox described...that wasn't even the half of it! The Chaos Curse was probably the most grievous offender...
Oh, yes. I could never get over the vampire thing and kept giggling all the way through. I think Rufo is probably the least menacing bloodsucker I've ever come across in any media, and that includes the ones in comedic anime/manga. (I'm serious. I just finished watching a vampire series not so long ago, where the vampiric protagonist is a bumbling, bespectacled buffoon who stumbles headfirst into fountains and construction sites, goes ga-ga over sweets, forgets his identification papers, and still mourns his mother after nine centuries. And he's more menacing than Rufo.) |
Edited by - Winterfox on 06 Dec 2005 00:14:00 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Dec 2005 : 20:47:54
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| And since Danica was so afraid of/threatened by Vampire Rufo, imagine what that says about her. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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