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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  17:37:00  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
We've had tons of info on Dove and all of her sisters - but I haven't seen much in the way of any information on Dove's man. Anyone know where he is or what he's doing now?

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Arivia
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  17:43:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe there's a reference to him being in Shadowdale in the last 100 pages or so of Elminster's Daughter...
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Winterfox
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  18:25:02  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

I believe there's a reference to him being in Shadowdale in the last 100 pages or so of Elminster's Daughter...



Yeah.

p.321:

quote:
Florin Falconhand was whistling softly as he traversed the well-worn flagstones that led to Elminster's tower.
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  18:49:15  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is that the only references, though? Just in El's Daughter? One would wonder why he never showed up in Silverfall or any other book with the sisters... oh well.

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Kuje
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Because most of the time he's been on Evermeet raising thier son. :)

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Faraer
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  19:29:37  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But Wizards is also sticking to its gentlemen's agreement not to lock down the exact movements of Ed's PCs.
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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  20:04:06  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He may appear in the Knigths of Myth Drannor trilogy that Ed Greenwood is/will be writing.

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Posted - 24 Nov 2005 :  21:05:36  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Talanfir Swiftfeet

He may appear in the Knigths of Myth Drannor trilogy that Ed Greenwood is/will be writing.



Actually, I think that judging by what Ed has said about this trilogy, he will certainly appear in the Knights of Myth Drannor-trilogy. However, as those books will detail the past of the Knights, that really doesn't help in placing his current whereabouts

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msatran
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  03:58:56  Show Profile  Visit msatran's Homepage Send msatran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, actually, I think Florin is approaching middle age. Would YOU want to be seen in a sourcebook as a geezer?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:04:45  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Florin is a central character in SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR, Ed tells me. He also added that "you'll be surprised" at what we see of Florin, before the end of the trilogy.
I'm sure that'll help answer your question fully.
(Sorry.)
love,
THO
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:40:32  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't forget . . . (Spoilers)






He did slap a Thayan wizard with a fish in Elminster's Daughter . . . what more do you want?
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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by msatran

Well, actually, I think Florin is approaching middle age. Would YOU want to be seen in a sourcebook as a geezer?



If I can look as good as say, Robert Redford, or Tom Cruise after 40, sure.

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Reefy
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  10:56:19  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Don't forget . . . (Spoilers)






He did slap a Thayan wizard with a fish in Elminster's Daughter . . . what more do you want?



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sleyvas
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  15:06:25  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
check the old gray box (1st edition) and you'll find stuff on Florin, plus wasn't he in Spellfire with the other knights of Myth Drannor (or maybe I've been eating too much turkey and its rotted my brain).

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  15:51:36  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right on - I just thought I'd ask since I've known that Dove was married, but had absolutely no clue as to where her spouse was. And since he appeared in El's Daughter (which I haven't read), that makes sense.

Welcome back, THO! We missed you!

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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  17:23:30  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Right on - I just thought I'd ask since I've known that Dove was married, but had absolutely no clue as to where her spouse was. And since he appeared in El's Daughter (which I haven't read), that makes sense.

Welcome back, THO! We missed you!

C-Fb



As I said, most of the time he's on Evermeet raising thier son. :) Before that, he's probably all over the place.

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Edited by - Kuje on 25 Nov 2005 17:24:03
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  17:38:00  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah - should I ever ask why a human is raising her son on Evermeet?

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Kuje
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  18:37:04  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Yeah - should I ever ask why a human is raising her son on Evermeet?

C-Fb



Because they are elf friends and some humans are allowed on the isle. :) Mara, Laeral's daughter, is/was as well plus a handful of other humans that aren't all Chosen's.

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warlockco
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  19:13:32  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Yeah - should I ever ask why a human is raising her son on Evermeet?

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  21:44:27  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Florin is a central character in SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR, Ed tells me. He also added that "you'll be surprised" at what we see of Florin, before the end of the trilogy.
I'm sure that'll help answer your question fully.
(Sorry.)
love,
THO



OK, now I *really* can't wait for this book.

On a side note, who said being middle-aged makes one unattractive (a geezer?). Look at how deeply entrenched the youth-oriented culture is. Geez, it's as if life is pretty much over once you leave your 20s/30s.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 25 Nov 2005 21:45:27
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Arivia
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Posted - 26 Nov 2005 :  00:00:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
On a side note, who said being middle-aged makes one unattractive (a geezer?). Look at how deeply entrenched the youth-oriented culture is. Geez, it's as if life is pretty much over once you leave your 20s/30s.



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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 26 Nov 2005 :  02:07:25  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh. I've actually begun to wonder if most people actually hit their peak when they are older, not when they are spring chickens. Youth is the time when people tend to make more stupid mistakes.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 06 Dec 2005 :  00:51:07  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the ages of 24-55 are pretty peak years, actually. Especially in today's society - we are living longer and doing more active things (well, not all of us! ). If Florin keeps up my exercise regimen, I'm sure he's still the man!

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TonyMontana1638
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 :  03:12:57  Show Profile  Visit TonyMontana1638's Homepage Send TonyMontana1638 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He is mentioned, albeit briefly, in the occasional book centered in Shadowdale usually alongside another Knight of MD... I remember him being enchanted and flying around fighting a dragon in one of the books, can't remember which though...

... Actually this post probably didn't help at all really ...

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 :  04:33:47  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No worries - seems good Florin is used to being MIA.

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Aelf
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Pardon me if I garble this as I'm a math guy ...

The Greeks (circa Herodotus) believed that 40 was the age to expect the first great accomplishment from someone. To that extent the date of their first accomplishment was recorded and subtracting 40 for the birth year was an "exercise for the reader."

I mention this as both to archaicly refute the "youth oriented culture" and also to plug a grand inspiration of plot ideas.

Decent reference of online translations: http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/herodotus/3.html

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 :  14:37:30  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
However - culture has changed quite a bit since Greek philosophers were around. Western European, Eastern Asian, and American culture are all heavily youth-oriented now. The advent of BoTox, Plastic Surgery, and Oil of Olay are sure signs of this.

C-Fb

P.s. - Back to topic, though - if Florin is on Evermeet with their child, do we have his/her name or even the gender of this child?

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Kuje
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Posted - 14 Dec 2005 :  17:44:27  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

P.s. - Back to topic, though - if Florin is on Evermeet with their child, do we have his/her name or even the gender of this child?



Children of the Seven Sisters

Dove and Florin have a son named Azalar
Qilue has a daughter named Ysolde (now deceased)
Laeral has a daughter named Maura, who is the consort of the Crown Prince Lamruil of Evermeet.
Storm is barren so says the Seven Sisters sourcebook.
Its never been said if Sylune or the Simbul have children.
Alustriel has 12 male children all was the surname of Aerasume. Their names are (alphabetically) Andelver, Boesild, Dolthauvin, Elinthalar, Ghaelryss, Inthylyn, Lilinthar, Methrammar, Naerond, Raerilarr, Tarthilmor, and Uoundeld. She also has female children that have never appeared in realmslore.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Crust
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Posted - 15 Dec 2005 :  03:59:22  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage Send Crust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've used Florin and Dove as NPCs in the past.

I can't wait to get my hands on Swords of Eveningstar.

"That's right, hurl back views that force ye to think by name-calling - 'tis the grand old tradition, let it not down! Anything to keep from having to think, or - Mystra forfend - change thy own views!"

Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"

"Some folk in the Realms would give their lives for the chance to learn at my feet," Elminster said mildly. "Several already have."

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 15 Dec 2005 :  14:23:21  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Crust

I've used Florin and Dove as NPCs in the past.

I can't wait to get my hands on Swords of Eveningstar.



I've used most of the Seven Sisters as NPCs in my games. They have a very ethereal quality about them. Thanks, Kuje, for the information above. Alustriel has been busy - she must like the pain of the "terrible twos."

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

I've used most of the Seven Sisters as NPCs in my games. They have a very ethereal quality about them. Thanks, Kuje, for the information above. Alustriel has been busy - she must like the pain of the "terrible twos."

C-Fb



Yeah she must but it's also Mystra, since none of the Chosen of Mystra can get with child without Mystra's permission, decided that Alustriel was the one who was going to bare that many for a specific reason. We haven't learned what the reason is though.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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