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Mask
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 16:44:22
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In one of our next campaigns is going to be an elven campaign. I intend to play a bladesinger. My DM had suggested some time ago that I could/should "invent" spells for that character. (By the way, we play 2nd edition)
So I want to ask some questions. Two actually. The first is if you could help me think up a spell or two. Oh, right, questions usually end in a question mark, so I'll rephrase. Would you please help me think up some spells? I'd prefer them to be "bladesinger spells", but any can help.
My second question involves a spell I have thought up myself. I haven't worked it out yet, but it's a spell that, once you block an attack, absorbs the damage normally dealt and stores that damage and releases the stored magic on the first attack you hit. Within a time-limit of course. Like 1 rnd/lvl or so. So what level spell would this be? I imagined it'd be a 1st or 2nd level spell, but then again, I've never created spells before.
Thank you.
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 16:54:09
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| That spell sounds much too powerful for a 1st or second level spell. Imagine this scenario a red dragon hits you, you block. Next round you hit and whamo huge amount of damage. In most cases this would be okay but in a much larger case it would not. I don't know where I would put this spell but not in the 1 or 2 range unless it was modified to be next attack only. |
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 17:08:12
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| Although I agree that the spell would be waaaaaaaaaay too powerful in the scenario you sketch, I am also confident that a dragons attack is imblockable. And I also agree with the alteration you present. You know, the next attack thing. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 18:54:34
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| So what if I'd put a damage limit on the spell. Like 2 pnts/lvl or something? Would that lower the spell level? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 19:28:12
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| Ok, thanks. I figured 1st level was kind of aiming too high. Or too low if you will. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 20:33:54
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| even 3rd is a bit low. What you have is somewhat of a modified stoneskin with a modified fireshield / cacophonic shield / mestil's acid sheath / death armor. Look into all those and then design. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 22:44:20
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Originally posted by sleyvas
even 3rd is a bit low. What you have is somewhat of a modified stoneskin with a modified fireshield / cacophonic shield / mestil's acid sheath / death armor. Look into all those and then design.
Yep, 3rd is a "starting place" but 4th or 5th or higher is where it will most likely end up being at. |
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 22:55:49
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| If it goes fith it could easily be said to have 1round per level stornig effects as per your original description. Just gut reaction here no book look |
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Dungeon Moron
Acolyte
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 10:21:44
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Other than this absrobing spell, are there Loremaster of the Elvenkind who are creative enough to suggest some spells which would add to the character of the bladesinger?
From the novels I read, namely Evermeet and the Archwizards, the bladesinger was more or less described as a warrior, with almost no emphasis on the spellcasting ability....
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 14:31:08
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Well, with a bladesinger, in 3E, you already have to have some good levels in both wizard and fighter, so, you could have that spell, and just have it absorb 1/pt per bladesinger level, that way it will always absorb only up to about 10 and could add 10 to the next attack. That's not a far cry from some other level spells around that area.
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Forge
Learned Scribe
USA
218 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 14:57:28
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Could have it soak spell levels and have it add a +1 enhancement bonus per level of spell soaked (within reasonable maximums). Bear in mind that Hybred class spell are normally higher level than their corresponding "Pure" caster classes. Or they are at least gained slower.
Spell suggestions:
Arcane Reach: Grants 10' reach to the weapon of choice for the caster.
Arcane cleave: Adds an additional cleave attack. (Low level spell, rendered useless by Greater Cleave, but still of use to a beginner)
Arcane Riposte: When an opponent lands a melee blow on the caster the caster may make an attack in response with a base attack bonus equal to their (pick a class) level.
Mind Like the Moon: Opponents cannot make attacks of opportunity and/or gain benefits for flanking the caster.
Just a few thoughts |
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 16:16:30
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As to the fire shield stuff, please keep in mind I'd have to block the attack first. That requires an attack roll from my side. This can be abused of course by having an ally attack your blade. So I'd need a safeguard for that as well. Something like being able to direct the absorbed damage only back at the person that attacked me.
And Forge, I really liked your idea's. They were very helpfull. I really liked the Soak Spell, Arcane Reach and Mind like the Moon (especially since I'm going to play a moon elf). But we're playing 2nd edition, so cleave and stuff is not in our "dictionary". |
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Forge
Learned Scribe
USA
218 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 17:04:15
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Well you could always create the spell to mimic the feat. *shrug* You could use spells that would in essence mimic some metamagic feats.
Consider something like:
Arcane Prescience: Allows the caster to "ready" a second single spell to be cast later as a free action. (A la Quicken spell)
Bladesingers swiftness: Lowers the weapon speed of the weapon of choice by the bladesingers level. |
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 17:35:02
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| Ok, I like your ideas. Thanks a lot. |
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 22:49:25
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Here is an old trick but a good one. Have some really nice guy put a permanent illusion of crackling electricity on your sword, so when ever it is drawn they have a very visible display of the energy. Then when you start the battle use the nifty little spell "Shocking Grasp" When you hit them they feel the damage from Shocking Grasp. But every attack after that does illusory damage, because they have a really really strong reason to believe the illusion...
Later on create a more powerful versions of the spell that lasts minutes, the turns the hours per level, and upon the first successful hit each spell does a range of xdx damage, and again you have the beauty of the illusion to carry the damage on without actually having to work that hard for it.
Loads of fun, but doesn't work well against, Gnomes and things with True sight. |
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