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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 14:50:10
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I was wondering what names people use for spells that have specific non-faerunian names. It's easy when it's the deities, Mystra's Blessed Book, Quiver of Mielikki, etc...
What I'm looking for are spells like
Mordenkainen's...
Bigby's...
Nystul's...
Tasha's...
I'm sure I'm missing a few but you guys get the gist.
Do you usually name them after a powerful PC, former PC, or NPC from your home realms, Do you name them after famous wizards like the Chosen of Mystra, or Do you do something all together different?
Generally we try to come up with Realmsian names but it doesn't always sound right.
Just looking for other ideas, thanks.
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 15:36:36
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| Take a look at the Netheril: Empire of Magic box. I vaguely remember that some spells' creators are listed in there. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
720 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 16:43:41
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| yeah in the netheril box it says that bigby mordenkainen etc are all archmages of netheril... it says that Ioun stones come from this guy Ioulomn as well (sp?) anyway its an interesting idea that we got these spells from so long ago etc. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Nov 2005 : 17:28:51
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Originally posted by Beirnadri Magranth
yeah in the netheril box it says that bigby mordenkainen etc are all archmages of netheril...
Are you sure about that? I just checked the pdf of that boxed set (available for free on the Wizards downloads page), and I found no such reference.
Those spells were named by their creators; if the creator came from another world, either he brought the spell to the Realms or others did. At least, that's how it was in 2E. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 12 Nov 2005 : 01:12:24
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| Yes, they make a point of mentioning in the 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms Adventures hardback that several Oerth wizards have been to Faerun and vice versa. However, the Netheril boxed set does give the names for a lot of popular spells as they were named in the time of Netheril. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 12 Nov 2005 : 03:56:14
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One of the things Ed and Eric and I have tried to slip in here and there is the idea that all spells once had someone's name attached to them, if you look far enough back. Time once was, Perigon's Pulchritudinous Pulse was the name a haughty mage of Jhaamdath named what we now call magic missile, etc. You can do this with nearly any spell, which was one of the reasons I wrote who knew the spells I wrote in City of Splendors all those years ago--the more common and widespread the spell, the more apt it would be to lose its honorific and become "uncommon" or "common" in use.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 21:57:49
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Well, more recent spells in Thay have come from the names.... if you want to keep names to spells in specific areas <g>
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Targuth
Flarik
Shenandra
Tallus the Black
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Thureen Buroch
Learned Scribe
169 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2005 : 22:31:54
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| Generally, arcane spells named after people are named after the spellcaster that created them. A sidebar in Magic of Faerun 3E gives some names of different spell creators. I don't have the book handy, so I'm not sure what page it's on. |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 15:33:40
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| Weren't Khelben and Bigby once romantic rivals and Khelben designed some of his spells to specificly counteract Bigby's various "hand" spells? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 16:17:43
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| I beleive that was Khelbun's Warding Whip . . . but it was Mordenkainen and Vangerdahast that competed over an extra planar beauty, as mentioned in Forgotten Realms Adventures (2nd Edition). |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 18:21:09
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| Thanks KnightErrantJR, I finally dug the book up, and your right it was Mordenkainen and Vandy. She must have been quite the looker since they both lost. I guess Bigby and Khelben don't like each other judging by Khelben's quip, "The old goat comes up with one good gimick, and beats it to death with a rock" |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 18:25:17
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| Heh heh, I love Khelbun, but he's a cranky one . . . |
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Igneus Animus
Acolyte
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Posted - 17 Nov 2005 : 19:10:17
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Yes, they make a point of mentioning in the 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms Adventures hardback that several Oerth wizards have been to Faerun and vice versa. However, the Netheril boxed set does give the names for a lot of popular spells as they were named in the time of Netheril.
Yes, Melf is a good example of an Oerth wizard who has a named spell. But I'm curious; Are all the "Khelben" titled spells developed by Khelben the Elder? Or has Khelben "Ravencloak" some spells named after him (Spells, that inevitably are credited to Khelben the Elder anyway)? |
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Realmsifying your spells
