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O Love
Acolyte
Germany
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 Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 17:54:38
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Amazon released the following images:
- "Son of Thunder": Third in the Fighters series
- "Realms of the Elves": The newest anthology
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 18:44:56
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| Lovely covers, both! |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 22:58:30
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Well, I'm not too sure about the big Drow 'fro... but I'm glad to see that they are sticking with the theme for the LAST MYTHAL series. :)
C-Fb |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 00:16:36
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It looks like another success for Mr. Swanland. :)
And the elves one is pretty cool as well. ;)
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 02:45:41
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| Wow, that's something. Not exactly how I imagined my protagonist, Vell, nor his peculiar form of transformation, but it's definitely an awesome image and that's what counts. Can you tell what kind of monsters those are? Just curious. |
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Paec_djinn
Learned Scribe
173 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 04:01:11
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| Lemme try to take a guess. Werebats? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 04:21:28
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| Trolls? |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 05:04:16
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Well, I'm not too sure about the big Drow 'fro...
Well, remember the first cover...Araevin's hair is blowing back over his head for no apparent reason. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 05:05:51
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Wow, that's something. Not exactly how I imagined my protagonist, Vell, nor his peculiar form of transformation, but it's definitely an awesome image and that's what counts. Can you tell what kind of monsters those are? Just curious.
Owlbears? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 16:27:45
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Wow, that's something. Not exactly how I imagined my protagonist, Vell, nor his peculiar form of transformation, but it's definitely an awesome image and that's what counts. Can you tell what kind of monsters those are? Just curious.
Hey ML!
Are certain aspects similar to your visualization and certain way different? Does it set you thinking about it -- maybe even make you see things in a new light?
That happened a little with the Ghostwalker cover. For me, it was very much how I had imagined my protagonist, with a few important differences, which subtly altered the way I perceived the novel in terms of tone and visual style. It's almost like watching someone make your novel into a movie. Did any of that happen with you?
And they look like werebats to me. Not sure. 
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 16:28:16
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| Werebats it is (I guess the RotdII excerpt was a hint). |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 16:54:04
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Wow, that's something. Not exactly how I imagined my protagonist, Vell, nor his peculiar form of transformation, but it's definitely an awesome image and that's what counts. Can you tell what kind of monsters those are? Just curious.
Hey ML!
Are certain aspects similar to your visualization and certain way different? Does it set you thinking about it -- maybe even make you see things in a new light?
That happened a little with the Ghostwalker cover. For me, it was very much how I had imagined my protagonist, with a few important differences, which subtly altered the way I perceived the novel in terms of tone and visual style. It's almost like watching someone make your novel into a movie. Did any of that happen with you?
And they look like werebats to me. Not sure.
Cheers
Hi Erik! Yes, that's absolutely true as to tonal differences. The whole cover appears to have something of a brown tint to it, which actually makes a lot of sense -- the novel's dominant colour is certainly brown (once you read it you'll know just what I mean). This isn't the first time I've been illustrated (the one-page illustration for the Cloaked in Shadow anthology comes to mind, and there was also the cover of Plague of Ice, but that's a grey area since it was composed of existing images), but it is the most elaborate illustration of my work and that feels like a milestone. Now, the image looks less distinctly "barbarian-y" than I had envisioned, but that may not be a bad thing. I'd hate to think I'll only appeal to barbarian-fanciers, who I'd assume are a pretty select group. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 19:09:32
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| ..............Werebats.......I`ve got bat-phobia. Hurray. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 20:02:38
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Now, the image looks less distinctly "barbarian-y" than I had envisioned, but that may not be a bad thing. I'd hate to think I'll only appeal to barbarian-fanciers, who I'd assume are a pretty select group.
I like barbarians, as long as they are well written and interesting (but the same goes for any other character). In fact I have a female barbarian character of my own, although she ends up becoming very much a "fish out of water". |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 21:30:21
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Hey, everybody loves a good barbarian!
Well, everybody who digs Robert E. Howard, anyway, a group that certainly includes me. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 21:49:29
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Whenever someone mentions a barbarian, I always start thinking about playing one or writing about one. Hmm. . .
Yay for Robert E. Howard!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2005 : 23:13:53
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| Absolutely. When I was writing the novel, I thought I should finally actually read Howard's Conan stories. More than simply appreciating them for their historical importance, I was astonished by how well-written and engaging they are. I recommend them to anyone! |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 02:34:19
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Now, the image looks less distinctly "barbarian-y" than I had envisioned, but that may not be a bad thing. I'd hate to think I'll only appeal to barbarian-fanciers, who I'd assume are a pretty select group.
I like barbarians, as long as they are well written and interesting (but the same goes for any other character). In fact I have a female barbarian character of my own, although she ends up becoming very much a "fish out of water".
You're playing a barbarian? I would have thought you to be a paladin or more of a wizard type... and I know not an elf. 
And you're right about the crazy hair in the Last Mythal series... but it doesn't change the fact that Sarya's hot.
C-Fb |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 02:38:00
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
Now, the image looks less distinctly "barbarian-y" than I had envisioned, but that may not be a bad thing. I'd hate to think I'll only appeal to barbarian-fanciers, who I'd assume are a pretty select group.
I like barbarians, as long as they are well written and interesting (but the same goes for any other character). In fact I have a female barbarian character of my own, although she ends up becoming very much a "fish out of water".
You're playing a barbarian? I would have thought you to be a paladin or more of a wizard type... and I know not an elf.
To be honest, I like to try out all different kinds of characters (yes, even elves!). My barbarian is fun to work with, though she is long seperated (in more ways than one) from her tribe.
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And you're right about the crazy hair in the Last Mythal series... but it doesn't change the fact that Sarya's hot.
*grins* It's pretty clear to me that hair flying all over the place (for a dynamic looking picture) is part of the author's style. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 03:25:10
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Ok, I guess I'll believe that you like to play elves as well. You just hate on my trilogy... but it's okay, keeps the discussion alive.
C-Fb |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 02:28:42
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Wow... very nice covers. I always did like the cover art for these two series. Well done!
Anyways, does anyone know what Son of Thunder will be about? |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 02:37:19
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Wow... very nice covers. I always did like the cover art for these two series. Well done!
Anyways, does anyone know what Son of Thunder will be about?
Barbarians and the Uthgart I believe. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 04:24:58
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Come on, artists do not consult the author when designing the cover art? really?  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 04:35:13
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Come on, artists do not consult the author when designing the cover art? really?
Actually, that's pretty much standard in the industry. :) Only a handful of authors get to have input on the cover art of thier book even if they send info about their characters or scenes. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 05:28:50
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Come on, artists do not consult the author when designing the cover art? really?
I'm under the impression that most of them don't even get to read the book they're doing art for... |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 07:19:00
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| Wooly's correct. In my experience, it's very, very rare for the artist to consult directly with the writer, and not at all unusual for the artist to do the cover without reading the book. In fairness to the artists, thouugh, we should note that it's quite often the case that they have to paint the painting befre the novel is even written. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 07:51:07
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Come on, artists do not consult the author when designing the cover art? really?
I'm not too surprised about this either. I remember the complains readers made about RAS's Drizzt novels. People complained about skin colour, wrinkles and most importantly (to them) that Drizzt was wielding falchions and not scimitars. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 11:27:58
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Originally posted by DDH_101
I'm not too surprised about this either. I remember the complains readers made about RAS's Drizzt novels. People complained about skin colour, wrinkles and most importantly (to them) that Drizzt was wielding falchions and not scimitars.
Don't forget that funky gold thing on his forehead, on some of the older novels! |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2005 : 17:01:41
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Yes, cover art seems to be decidedly hit-or-miss: I think the artist gets some info about the book, some description of the main characters, and interprets as best he/she can. Sometimes it's dead on agreement between writer and artist, sometimes not.
With Ghostwalker, Raymond hit the nail right on the head, but he and I never talked about it before hand. I didn't get to see it any earlier than anyone else. It was fun to guess what he might depict. :)
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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New covers: Son of Thunder and Realms of the Elves
