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Dargoth
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 Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 11:27:27
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Was just looking at page 78 of the FRC and its got the following entry
1374 The Year of Lightning storms
1373 is listed as the year of Rogue Dragons and 1375 as the Year of Risen Elfkin
What happaned to the Year of Lightning storms why havent we heard anything?
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 11:30:58
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The Realms needed a vacation. Too much work killing off all her children-she needed some downtime.
Are you sure neither the Dragon Rage series or The Last Mythal series end/start in 1374?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 12:16:40
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Richard Byers trilogy is set in the Year of Rogue Dragons and Richard Bakers trilogy is set in the year of Risen Elfkin.
We seem to have a year where nothing happaned in the realms! |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 12:20:18
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Richard Byers trilogy is set in the Year of Rogue Dragons and Richard Bakers trilogy is set in the year of Risen Elfkin.
We seem to have a year where nothing happaned in the realms!
Bakers trilogy occurs in 1374 but someone said it will end in 1375. |
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 16:56:06
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Was just looking at page 78 of the FRC and its got the following entry
1374 The Year of Lightning storms
1373 is listed as the year of Rogue Dragons and 1375 as the Year of Risen Elfkin
What happaned to the Year of Lightning storms why havent we heard anything?
Perhaps it was a mistranslation of the ancient scroll. I believe it actually said The Year of Litening storms. or the Year of Lessoning Storms might be as apt a translation. 
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 17:01:24
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Richard Byers trilogy is set in the Year of Rogue Dragons and Richard Bakers trilogy is set in the year of Risen Elfkin.
We seem to have a year where nothing happaned in the realms!
Bakers trilogy occurs in 1374 but someone said it will end in 1375.
Aye, Richs novels are set so far in 1374. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 20:58:45
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| ...Which I find rather funny. For all the hype about "The Year of Risen Elfkin" (and the events in the Last Mythal trilogy), so far the story--two out of three books--is entirely set in the Year of Lightning Storms...and it's only summer. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 01:47:51
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Well there are other novels on the way - no doubt some of them will be set in the Year of the Lightning Storms and Year of Risen Elfkin.
-- George Krashos
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 04:42:55
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Maybe. Don't mind me, I often take shots at the Last Mythal series because while it's enjoyable (great story), I don't believe it lives up to it's hype. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 17:06:40
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Dang you, RF! You always are showing up to bash on the Last Mythal!
The year of Risen Elfkin could also see the return of the Elven Imperial Fleet.. which would do well to recapture the lost lands of the Vyshaanti empire.
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 17:49:36
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Well there are other novels on the way - no doubt some of them will be set in the Year of the Lightning Storms and Year of Risen Elfkin.
-- George Krashos
George speaks with great wisdom.
Hearken, ye gentles, to his words.
Steven
Who knows a little something about a novel and its significant ties to the Year of Lightning Storms...and who's now smarting from the pain of an NDA falling on him, not unlike a cartoon anvil.... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 19:32:25
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Dang you, RF! You always are showing up to bash on the Last Mythal!
I know... I just can't help myself sometimes.
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George speaks with great wisdom.
Hearken, ye gentles, to his words.
Steven
Who knows a little something about a novel and its significant ties to the Year of Lightning Storms...and who's now smarting from the pain of an NDA falling on him, not unlike a cartoon anvil....
Ah! So the Year of Lightning Storms will mean something after all. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 19:43:24
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Ah! So the Year of Lightning Storms will mean something after all.
I suspect somebody will get hit by lightning *wink*
Or perhaps some other things. Other posiblities include fires, lightning breathing dragons. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 20:54:53
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You seriously can't have a great name like "Year of Lightning Storms" and let it slip away without making something stupendous happen, right?
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 21:04:06
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
You seriously can't have a great name like "Year of Lightning Storms" and let it slip away without making something stupendous happen, right?
C-Fb
For all we know, it could just mean that all the weather's off for this year due to some El Nino over Anchorome or a butterfly flapping it's wings in Maztica or something.
Also, please don't sign your posts like that. Either add the signature to your signature space(which is where it's supposed to go), or just don't use it-it's presence in the main text block is just really annoying. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 01:44:15
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Dang you, RF! You always are showing up to bash on the Last Mythal!
The year of Risen Elfkin could also see the return of the Elven Imperial Fleet.. which would do well to recapture the lost lands of the Vyshaanti empire.
C-Fb
Why not bash on it a little bit, after all there are several "Fluff" errors in it, that can't be retracted now  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 02:20:10
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
You seriously can't have a great name like "Year of Lightning Storms" and let it slip away without making something stupendous happen, right?
C-Fb
For all we know, it could just mean that all the weather's off for this year due to some El Nino over Anchorome or a butterfly flapping it's wings in Maztica or something.
You're right. The name of a Year doesn't have to refer to any super significant event, but if someone wants to write a novel about it, great.
What gets my goat about the Last Mythal trilogy is that it supposedly refers to the Year of Risen Elfkin--even in Rick Baker's thread people were asking if the rise of the Fey'ri are the "risen elfkin"--and yet after two books, it's still the year of Lightning Storms, and it's still only midsummer. How, for example, can the Fey'ri be the "risen elfkin" if they came out of their hole in the Year of Lightning Storms? |
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David LƔzaro
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 03:58:52
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Uh... maybe the Last Mythal is only the beginning of some bigger event for the elfkin. Something that will be revealed in time.
And regarding the Year of Lightning Storms, by the light of Steven Schend comments: maybe there are something related to the lightning storm name in his Blackstaff novel... What could we get if we mix lightnings, storms and Khelben? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 05:25:42
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
What gets my goat about the Last Mythal trilogy is that it supposedly refers to the Year of Risen Elfkin--even in Rick Baker's thread people were asking if the rise of the Fey'ri are the "risen elfkin"--and yet after two books, it's still the year of Lightning Storms, and it's still only midsummer. How, for example, can the Fey'ri be the "risen elfkin" if they came out of their hole in the Year of Lightning Storms?
The Fey'ri have been out of their hole for quite a while now, a few years in fact. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 06:38:12
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Originally posted by David Lįzaro
What could we get if we mix lightnings, storms and Khelben?
Something that this hamster would prefer to observe from half a continent away!  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 07:08:16
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
What gets my goat about the Last Mythal trilogy is that it supposedly refers to the Year of Risen Elfkin--even in Rick Baker's thread people were asking if the rise of the Fey'ri are the "risen elfkin"--and yet after two books, it's still the year of Lightning Storms, and it's still only midsummer. How, for example, can the Fey'ri be the "risen elfkin" if they came out of their hole in the Year of Lightning Storms?
The Fey'ri have been out of their hole for quite a while now, a few years in fact.
Yeah, but the big thing that happens in the book is that Sarya lets out a thousand or so of them; far more than before and enough to make an army. Therefore, she becomes a bigger threat on the stage of Faerun.
There's another example: Rich Baker said in his answer thread that "The Year of Risen Elfkin" could refer to the resurrection of a certain character in his series...but again, that resurrection took place in the year of Lightning Storms.
Lastly, as far as I know (and I've been a fan of the FR for years), the elves of Faerun aren't generally refered to as "elfkin". If the Year of Risen Elfkin is refering to, say, the Return, why wouldn't the year just be called "The Year of Risen Elves"? I don't have an axe to grind about this or anything, these are just some things I've thought about.
The Year of Rogue Dragons is a deceptive title too: does it refer to the rampaging dragons, or to the dragons labeled as "rogues" by Lareth? Both? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 08:35:31
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Elfkin would refer to the Fey'ri
Kin ussually means less for of the stated creature
For example Firbolgs are Giantkin there not considered to be true giants (by True meaning Frost,Stone etc)
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khorne
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 13:10:09
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
The Year of Rogue Dragons is a deceptive title too: does it refer to the rampaging dragons, or to the dragons labeled as "rogues" by Lareth? Both?
You should remember that the roll of years is not easy to decode. If there`s are year that`s named the year of the blast(I don`t know if there is one) it could refer to anything from a great battle to someone introducing particularly volatile beans into the sembian kitchen. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 13:20:41
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
The Year of Rogue Dragons is a deceptive title too: does it refer to the rampaging dragons, or to the dragons labeled as "rogues" by Lareth? Both?
You should remember that the roll of years is not easy to decode. If there`s are year that`s named the year of the blast(I don`t know if there is one) it could refer to anything from a great battle to someone introducing particularly volatile beans into the sembian kitchen.
Or a really great party |
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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 17:25:07
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It could also signal a return of the elves to Myth Drannor or Myth Glaurach, especially since Myth Glaurachs mythal has been at least partially restored.
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Edit: or maybe it could have something to do with the end of Evermeet, with a new land of elves with the Tree of Souls? |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 18:18:09
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OK I searched Elfkin on WotC site and got no hit, that does not mean WotC and/or never used the term as the seach engine is not that robust (seach sometimes does not find pages I know are online at that site) and not all WotC/TSR material is online.
IAE Elfkin would appear to indicate not just elves but any related to Elves. Expalpes one might look at include Dragonkin (which includes, Kobolds, gargoyles, half-dragons, Wyvern and so on). So options are very large indeed, based on how Elfkin will be used. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 21:03:42
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Originally posted by Kentinal
OK I searched Elfkin on WotC site and got no hit, that does not mean WotC and/or never used the term as the seach engine is not that robust (seach sometimes does not find pages I know are online at that site) and not all WotC/TSR material is online.
Their search engine was written by drunken tinker gnomes. And it works poorly, even by their standards.
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Originally posted by Kentinal
IAE Elfkin would appear to indicate not just elves but any related to Elves. Expalpes one might look at include Dragonkin (which includes, Kobolds, gargoyles, half-dragons, Wyvern and so on). So options are very large indeed, based on how Elfkin will be used.
Yup. So "Elfkin" includes half-elves and fey'ri. |
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warlockco
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:02:22
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Originally posted by Kentinal
OK I searched Elfkin on WotC site and got no hit, that does not mean WotC and/or never used the term as the seach engine is not that robust (seach sometimes does not find pages I know are online at that site) and not all WotC/TSR material is online.
IAE Elfkin would appear to indicate not just elves but any related to Elves. Expalpes one might look at include Dragonkin (which includes, Kobolds, gargoyles, half-dragons, Wyvern and so on). So options are very large indeed, based on how Elfkin will be used.
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?  |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 23:38:49
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How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
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We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
For a moment thought it might be 2nd, but clearly is 3.x for Unapproachable East campaigns. IAE it makes more sense to me then those dog-faced humaniods. *G*
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"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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David LƔzaro
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:02:10
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by warlockco
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
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We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
Doesn't it mean that one can substitute gargoyles for references of Dragonkin? That is, if you don't have Monsters of Faerūn available. Dragonkin is a kind of monster described in that book. |
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warlockco
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Posted - 10 Oct 2005 : 01:10:31
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Originally posted by Kentinal
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Originally posted by warlockco
How are Gargoyles considered Dragonkin?!?
I only report, I do not have to explain.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20030502a
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We also recommend the Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. A number of the creatures described in this sourcebook can be found there, as shown below. If you do not have Monsters of Faerūn, substitute the appropriate monster from the Monster Manual. ...
Dragonkin (gargoyle)
For a moment thought it might be 2nd, but clearly is 3.x for Unapproachable East campaigns. IAE it makes more sense to me then those dog-faced humaniods. *G*
Ah I see now. 
Miss reading of the information.
If you do not have stats for Dragonkin, they are telling you to use Gargoyles instead, and so on. |
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