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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 06:04:42
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Ok. Now I admit I am a stickler when it comes to geology and maps. That said, can someone tell me this...
Why is it that supposedly there are volcanoes in Chult but the only volcano on the map of Faerun is the one outside of Neverwinter???
Volcanoes are our friends, they should be on the map. What's up with the volcano hating?
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Edited by - Kianna on 05 Oct 2005 07:29:37
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 06:07:59
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Take a look at the older 2e map from the FR boxed set.
There's a number of volcanoes placed in regions where they should be, according to the text on those locations.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 06:11:35
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There's volcanoes on the map for 3e FR -- the Peaks of Flame, they're in Chult. And the Arnrock as well, in the Lake of Steam.
Oh, and the Smoking Mountains in southern Unther.
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El Magnifico Uno
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 06:50:33
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| And there's Mt Andrus (near Alaghon) and Mt Ugruth (near Hlondeth), both in the Orsraun Mountains... |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 07:29:10
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| I wonder why they didn't carry over to the main 3E maps. Wierd. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 11:22:09
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Because Volcanoes are hard to work in the game now since a giant one was in a feature film (in fact three of them) :). Ok, maybe not - but they made a lot of changes in 3E from 2E. Just grab my 2E box set and look at the maps compared to our 3E books.
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warlockco
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 15:12:43
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Originally posted by Kianna
I wonder why they didn't carry over to the main 3E maps. Wierd.
Some of the volcanoes are on the 3e map -- I already mentioned them above  .
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 03:25:06
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Thanks Sage. I just meant on the large maps from Dragon and the Trade Map from the FRCS, the only volcano is next to Neverwinter.
I will check out the rest though. Nothing like a cataclysmic eruption to bring an adventuring party together! |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 16:43:59
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| The Arnrock in the Lake of Steam is on the main map as well as the big maps from Dragon. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 19:09:25
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| Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast mentions that Candlekeep sits atop a volcanic crag (most likely long inactive). |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 11:10:28
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Better watch out, Al... Volcanoes have been known to become active again after a very long time... Perhaps it's time to get some mages in here to stop that rumbing! 
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Alaundo
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 11:46:07
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Better watch out, Al... Volcanoes have been known to become active again after a very long time... Perhaps it's time to get some mages in here to stop that rumbing!
C-Fb
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 : 20:53:23
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 Don't worry, Alaundo, I don't think Oghma and the other gods would let the volcano erupt and drown Candlekeep under tons of molten rock. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 12:22:53
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Don't worry, Alaundo, I don't think Oghma and the other gods would let the volcano erupt and drown Candlekeep under tons of molten rock.
What if Kossuth gets pissed off at Candlekeep for some reason? Would they be able to stop him in time? |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Oct 2005 : 17:04:31
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Probably... you could just act like Tommy Lee Jones in the movie Volcano and quickly avert all disaster in the nick of time!
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 12:38:50
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quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Probably... you could just act like Tommy Lee Jones in the movie Volcano and quickly avert all disaster in the nick of time!
C-Fb
Sorry, I`ve never heard of Tommy Lee Jones and I most definitely don`t see how he could stop a greater deity from torching candlekeep. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 12:52:21
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Originally posted by khorne
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Probably... you could just act like Tommy Lee Jones in the movie Volcano and quickly avert all disaster in the nick of time!
C-Fb
Sorry, I`ve never heard of Tommy Lee Jones and I most definitely don`t see how he could stop a greater deity from torching candlekeep.
Wow, you mean you don't get any of our movies over there?
This should shed some light for ya: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000169/
As to him being able to stop this atrocity, given that Oghma is a Greater Deity also.....  |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 16:21:51
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| But you know, if you are Pierce Brosnan you can drive over the lava with your vehicle (Dante's Peak). I so wish that in my former life as a geologist I had lava-proof tires on my truck. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 16:38:58
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2005 : 19:56:06
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| Well I think that when Neverwinter gets covered with ash and liquid hot magma at least I will be driving away in my chariot with lava-proof wheels! |
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warlockco
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 15:22:27
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Well, sometimes you have to cruise through the cities, low-ridin' your chariot, of course. Can't pick up the ladies with the portal
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 16:51:11
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| Since you all ignored my first one, Let's get this back to talk about volcanos! |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 02:27:31
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Ok, here's a question - there is a good chance that the Spine of the World, being as tall as they are, are caused by plate subduction. This could eventually cause volcanoes to form in one of the most chilling areas around...
Do you think that the effect on the environment would be as great as simple melting of the ice portrayed in the RotA trilogy?
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 02:31:49
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Well, maybe and maybe not. This could be plate subduction causing volcanoes but remember, subduction also leads to orogeny. So, like in the Himalayas, there may just be uplift but no volcanism. I was more wondering about the placement of Neverwinter Volcano in relation ot other things around it. Its such a small range so the volcano must be really young.
I am assuming there was never actual geological consulting going on when the maps were made. That might be a bit too retentive. Although my maps are all as geologically sound as possible..but I am weird like that. |
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El Magnifico Uno
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 08:00:30
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I am assuming there was never actual geological consulting going on when the maps were made.
Y'think?... Fortunately it's a fantasy game setting, so geological reality doesn't really need to apply... Need a reason for a volcano? Well that area just happens to sit on a nexus that leads to the Elemental Planes of Fire and Earth. Voila! Instant reason...
Also, the only volcanoes you'll ever read about in FR lore are the ones that have exploded, or directly impact a city in some way... Otherwise nobody would bother writing about Volcano X that just sits there and doesn't even give off a puff of smoke... Hence you'd be able to place a volcano any place you like and say it suddenly becomes active... A mountain that starts spitting out a few lava balls and some smoke isn't going to break canon unless you destroy something big... |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 13 Oct 2005 : 14:01:08
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You are right. Geo-reality doesn't need to apply to fantasy. Obviously. Let's look at the cretion of Evermeet for crying out loud. No sense whatsoever!
Like I said before, I think the power of a volcano belching up hot stuff and ultimately bringing an adventuring party together is underrated. Lava is cool. I like volcanoes and think there should be one in every mountain range.
And yeah, its fantasy but to someone who studied the darn things for 5 years of her life, I guess I am , like I said, retentive about where they are located and why. Though I also like the "Well that area just happens to sit on a nexus that leads to the Elemental Planes of Fire and Earth."
I am sure we are all that way about *something* in our games. :) |
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I should hope so! 